Crossroads 2018: The PROOF of the pudding…

“To state the facts frankly is not to despair the future nor indict the past.”
~ John F. Kennedy ~

Written, Edited and Presented by
Tim

Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen,

You know, there’s a simple phrase that resounds, and echoes, throughout the modern culture on a VERY, annoyingly, regular basis – “Prove it…!”

Usually it’s in reference to a person claiming this, that, or the other about their Vampirism but there’s a place, and time, when it should be used and it should be used properly.

Accusations of misconduct, or misdeeds, are part and parcel of the modern Vampire culture and I guess we have to expect that when somebody gets upset with someone else. Calling people names like “paedophile”, “child molester”, “sexual predator”, “rapist”…well, that’s all well and good and, if there is evidence of conviction in a nationally, or State based, Sex Offenders Registry then it is justified and warranted BUT, and here’s the big “but”, if you have no proof for making said accusation, if you can’t support the claim with rock solid, incontrovertible and legally sound proof then you are committing an offence under the law and that, dear reader, gets you a black mark in the culture.

What’s the black mark? Well, you may get the title “Drama Queen”, you may get a name for yourself as a troublemaker and end up getting ignored, or shunned, by the mainstream culture. What’s worse, in this writer’s opinion, is the clear indication that you have no self-respect or dignity and therefore are clearly indicating that you should not be taken too seriously.

If you do it once you might get away with it by claiming you were in a bad mood, claiming your pet guppy passed away, claiming you had a bad day at work but if you persist and spread the poison far and wide then you will get a name as a douche and no one will take you seriously anymore. Now, you can sit back and say, “I don’t give a rat’s…” That’s fine, that’s your prerogative but the very fact that you don’t give a damn about anyone else reflects very poorly on YOU and, worse still, it reflects badly on people you call friends.

Take a look at this;

Img. source: Facebook

A most enlightening meme indeed and one that shows, step by step, how to avoid falling into the “Idiot” hole as you mingle.

Perhaps I could add another, “Never try and support your insupportable argument by yelling louder and getting other people to yell with you.” (Empty vessel syndrome)

Img. source: the register.co.uk

We all like to think that we are reasonable, educated, socially aware creatures and if we’re going to call ourselves that then we really ought to act like it. Let common sense and conscience guide you, apply critical thinking to things, question things, see if they make sense or they are backed by proof and evidence before you form an opinion, grab the pitchfork and brand and charge at somebody’s castle walls. You might just save yourself a whole lot of embarrassment and avoid the “Moron” label being plastered across your picture and name. That alone should make it worthwhile to you if for no other reason.

Proof and the burden of proof 

Burden of proof n. the requirement that the plaintiff (the party bringing a civil lawsuit) show by a “preponderance of evidence” or “weight of evidence” that all the facts necessary to win a judgment are presented and are probably true. In a criminal trial the burden of proof required of the prosecutor is to prove the guilt of the accused “beyond a reasonable doubt,” a much more difficult task. Unless there is a complete failure to present substantial evidence of a vital fact (usually called an “element of the cause of action”), the ultimate decision as to whether the plaintiff has met his/her burden of proof rests with the jury or the judge if there is no jury. However, the burden of proof is not always on the plaintiff. In some issues it may shift to the defendant if he/she raises a factual issue in defense, such as a claim that he/she was not the registered owner of the car that hit the plaintiff, so the defendant has the burden to prove that defense. If at the close of the plaintiff’s presentation he/she has not produced any evidence on a necessary fact (e.g. any evidence of damage) then the case may be dismissed without the defendant having to put on any evidence.

(Ref: https://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=109)

Proof n. confirmation of a fact by evidence. In a trial, proof is what the trier of the fact (jury or judge without a jury) needs to become satisfied that there is “a preponderance of the evidence” in civil (non-criminal) cases and the defendant is guilty “beyond a reasonable doubt” in criminal prosecutions. However, each alleged fact must be proved separately, as must all the facts necessary to reach a judgment for the plaintiff (the person filing a lawsuit) or for the prosecution (the “people” or “state” represented by the prosecutor). The defendants in both civil suits and criminal trials need not provide absolute “proof” of non-responsibility in a civil case or innocence (in a criminal case), since the burden is on the plaintiff or prosecution to prove their cases (or prove the person guilty).

(Ref: https://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=1642)

Even though these are the definitions drawn from a legal dictionary it doesn’t matter what situation you are applying them to, it doesn’t matter whether you are in an official Court of Law or in The Court of Public Opinion, if you present yourself with noting but a wild accusation you won’t achieve anything except annoying people, in a Court of Law, that will get you a contempt citation, in the Court of Public Opinion that will get you a general contempt.

Respect yourself when you want to make assertions, accusations or public statements… get the facts, get the truth, or truth’s (there’s always more than one side to every story) form your opinions and then get the evidence and proof to back them up before you shoot your mouth off or let your fingers do the talking without having the brain involved and just maybe we’ll be able to enjoy more of the TRUTH and less of the B.S.

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Welllllllll… it’s Sat’dy night an’ I jus’ got paid…!!!

John Travolta cuts it up in “Saturday Night Fever”
Robert Stigwood Organization (RSO), 1977.

 

To paraphrase the immortal Airman Adrian Cronauer…
“Gooooooooooooood morrrrrrrrrrrrrrning, Vee Ceeeeeeee! Hey, this is not a test. This is rock and roll. Time to rock it from the delta to the Vee eM Zee! Is that me, or does that sound like an Elvis Presley movie? Viva Vee-Cee Oh, viva…”[1]

Oh yes, it’s Saturday… a good day to review just WTF happened last week
For those of you at work this morning… sympathies, shame on those greedy corporate monsters for dragging you away from your nice warm beds and your loving families… SHAME ON YOU CORPORATE AMERICA, SHAME…!!!

For those of you not working, well, get those glad rags out, shine up that Glo-mesh and de-wrinkle ya dancin’ trousers cuz tonite it’s…

Bwaaaahahahahahahahaha…!!! Yep, that’s right, Britain had THE Idol first…!!!

Okayyyyyy, so, where are we….

Ahhh, yes, well the BIG news of last week came outta Chicago with the news that the recently self-proclaimed “King” of Chicago Vampires, He Who Shall Not Be Named, has, well, ummm… no kingdom left… just eight little followers in a small room someplace… eight little followers who will, hopefully, see the light and rejoin the RIGHT side of the force…!!!

Blessings to all who joined ChiTown Vamps on that one… I’ll see if I can get you VIP tickets or Keys to the City or something…

Y’know over the last couple of months we have seen an unprecedented level of cooperation between many of the highest profile organisations, respected Elders and Leaders of the modern Vampire Culture and a ground swell of support for the concept of unity… I will admit, freely, I have, for a couple of years now, avoided the use of the term “community”, I saw too many contradictions that just did not fit with the definition of community but the developments over the last few months have prompted me to dust off the old Cambridge and look the word up again…

Jus’ sayin’

What else, what else???

OOOOOOH, yes, I know… we have a very special and dear friend that is about to prove that dreams can come true

Here’s a special shout out to the lovely Lady Magdalena…

Now, here’s one straight out of left field…

Andrews (Brian Glover) in “Alien(3) Resurrection”
Twentieth Century Fox &
Brandywine Productions, 1992

“I am in the VVC they have an extensive library on everyone and most vampire political dances in the last 10 years.”

If that’s the case then are we looking at the VVCIA??? How many Federal laws would that contravene… maybe they’d better get some more chairs ready in The Capitol next to Mr. Zuckerberg eh?

Seriously, seems as though someone has a “hard on” for… a grudge, an axe to grind even with the VVC. Yeeeaaaaah… might wanna lay off the Koolaid for a bit possum…!!!

WORD UP kids, as much as you may not like the modus operandi of a group, as much as you might have personal feelings about any particular member, or members, of a group, if that group is ACTIVELY doing good things and helping to protect the people in the culture than I suggest you might want to think before your fingers hit the keyboard…!!!

Take another look at “The Warning”

Okay, nuff of that… what can we say about the “rumour” but…

“X-Files”
Ten Thirteen Productions,
20th Century Fox Television (in association with) X-F Productions

img. source: domica.info

 

One other item, if I may, IT’S HAPPY BIRTHDAY day to the venerable BratPrince of Chicago… you can share his crazy world at

The Leathur Lair

Hey, this is for you D…

Okay boys and girls… that’s enough outta me, think I’ll STFU now…
Have a great weekend and remember, whether you’re Psi, Sang or something else altogether, you were…

 

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  1. Robin Williams as D.J. Airman Adrian Cronauer in “Good Morning Viet Nam”,
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Crossroads 2018: Ageism or natural (d)evolution Part 2

“To state the facts frankly is not to despair the future nor indict the past.”
~ John F. Kennedy ~

Written and presented by

Tim

Good afternoon,
There has been, just today, a most extraordinary exchange taking place that bears directly on the subject of “Ageism”… this “argument” is taking on a life of its own, since the publication of the original commentary at the grumpyvamp.wordpress.com the lines have, quite literally, been running hot.

In the first instance I am delighted to report that we have secured an exclusive interview with author Marcel Curiel of the blog, “Arcane Ramblings of a Teenage Vampire”. We are very exited at getting a look inside the proverbial book cover. That interview will be published either late this evening or tomorrow.

In meantime, I would like to report, from “inside” the action on a series of exchanges that followed a post made by Lord Stefan Henderson on his timeline on Facebook 

The post took the form of a wide-ranging address in the matter of the “Ageism” debate and contained a great many valid, and supported, points from the point of view of the longer serving members of the modern culture. (Recommended reading)

This is, verbatim, exactly what ensued in one string of response and reply after that post was made;
(Reproduced by permission of Lord Stefan H.)

Sage Hawk

The elders disappear and abandon this community and then wonder why z and y act this way? Hahahahhahhahaha

Stefan Henderson

Stefan Henderson Not all the Elders left or abandoned; those of us that have fought are calling the others out

Christopher Rogue Ostrowski

I have been here since the 1990’s. Back when Father Todd almost destroyed it.

I see it happening again.

Sage Hawk

Well you are all few and far between. So before you criticize z and y look at the part your generation played in making it so more than half of us never had a proper mentor because your generation decided that when Todd fucked it up you’d just leave.

Stefan Henderson

Stefan Henderson I agree and understand, Sage. Believe me, I have spent decades cleaning up that mess. It all starts with both parties understanding the errors made and working together to not only repair them but ensure they don’t happen again.

Christopher Rogue Ostrowski

Christopher Rogue Ostrowski Like I said, the time for Bubble Gum and Popsicles Sticks is gone. We need a permanent fix. We let the Lifestylers take away our Heritage. They corrupted the History and Ancestry.

Sage Hawk

And you left me alone in the thick of it. I have been saying this since we moved to facebook, that our culture was dying and NO ONE backed me up. I had to argue 3 or more people at once by myself for quite a few years now. Luckily Lady CG and Julianna made places to go that were not here and were not friendly to the riff raff… I finally was able to leave the VC on here.

Stefan Henderson

Stefan Henderson ?? You indicate that I’ve known you before now; please explain, in private preferably. My memory is not what it was.

Christopher Rogue Ostrowski

No, I didn’t. I have been “Removed” from several Groups on Facebook because of my stance. VC has been the latest one that Banned me. It isn’t a matter of we “Left” a lot of us have been Banned

Sage Hawk

I see, I did not know that Christopher Rogue Ostrowski. No one said that elders were being mass banned.

Stefan Henderson I apologize… no I’ve seen you around but we have not spoken before now.

Stefan Henderson

Not a problem. Christoper, you mean VCN? If you were banned from that, you’re in good company

Christopher Rogue Ostrowski

Anyone that goes against the “Norm” gets removed. Hence, They are “Burying Us” while we are alive.

Sage Hawk

I was kicked from VNN with no explination and I purposely left the VNC because they posted the most idiotic shit as ‘news’

(Ed. Note – the following statement was mistakenly attributed to Ms. Hawk, it was, in fact, authored by Mr. C. R. Ostrowski, see written/published apology 3/27/18)

Christopher Rogue Ostrowski

-Then you understand the frustration.

My theory is, our way doesn’t make money.. Fangs, Balls, Costumes, Parties, Debauchery, Is more profitable than helping and learning.

We have become the “Parents the make you study to better yourself.”

Sage Hawk

I have been noticing that. I used to respect Michelle but not so much anymore. She and Madame x just post about vampire balls and seminars…. fuck that shit.

Madame X

Madame X Sage, maybe you aren’t looking closely 😉

Merticus Stevens

Christopher Rogue Ostrowski I have not removed you from VCN… afaik I’ve never had any issues with you whatsoever nor did you ever violate any rules etc.

Christopher Rogue Ostrowski

Merticus Stevens – Oh no my Friend. I was removed. When there was the big debate about House Rakoczy. I was removed because I stood my Ground on the House. We were repeatedly attacked. Charles Johnson and Cory Kai Draken can back on that. I was Blocked.

Sage Hawk

Well Madame X unless you have something other than Facebook going on … I saw 2-3 posts by you daily in the Facebook VC, and they were all about vampire parties. So perhaps you should look at your own stuff and how you come off for a second before having an attitude.

Christopher Rogue Ostrowski

Even the Magister “Knighted” me for standing up to people attacking the House.

Sage Hawk

Sage Hawk I have been attacked for defending Asetians. So I know how you feel. Rokoczy is a good house. It seems the community has decided basic things like houses are laughable now. Fucking dumb

Merticus Stevens

Christopher Rogue Ostrowski I just checked and your name doesn’t appear in the blocked list. You are more than welcome to rejoin.

Stefan Henderson

Sage Hawk , take care. Madame X is one of my oldest and most trusted friends and allies; heed her words. This is exactly what I was talking about.

Christopher Rogue Ostrowski

Merticus – It hurt that I was removed. You and I have chatted since you started your study in the 90’s. I remember a Female that worked for for the study also. She moved away. She was my first contact with a person that actually listened

Madame X

Sage my attitude is one of education. My parties involve presenters, discussion groups, networking, philanthropy and community building. And those are the public gatherings. I have also appeared with others in several programs, zines articles etc … I’m sorry but I must have missed your contributions.

Merticus Stevens

Christopher Rogue Ostrowski Nods, my apologies for your removal the other year (likely during the non-link etc. postings from the other year). Alas, I harbor absolutely no ill will towards you or House Rakoczy or many people at all for that matter. I’m by no means a pacifist but I believe in giving a wide berth.

Sage Hawk

Madame X listen this is what I am talking about. This attitude. I do not get it. Quit being defensive and actually think and hear me for a second. I thought this post was for honesty and looking at things that have been going wrong.

That’s great that…See more

Madame X

Sage what is your concept of stepping up?

Tim Bey-Sahjaza

Hey Sage baby… if you’re gonna act like a child…

Blessings dear…

[image of a large lollipop]

Sage Hawk

Sage Hawk Madame X what I just said above. Actually listen to what I am saying instead of automatically taking it as an attack. This is part of the problem if the OVC in general, everything is an attack. No one comes in to a conversation honestly anymore.

Tim Bey-Sahjaza

Mz. Asetian… if YOU come out and ATTACK and DISRESPECT you WILL get it back in spades, it’s simple physics.

Sage Hawk

Tim Bey-Sahjaza wow… this is how you behave??? And you wonder why none of us respect any of you.

Marmoon Bey

Sage Hawk take your narcissism back to your group and stop attacking everyone …

Sage Hawk

Sage Hawk I’m not attacking anyone

Mavenlore Scalzi

I respect Tim Bey-Sahjaza

Sage Hawk

I’m giving legit critisism. This is why I fucking hate the VC …. you legit think everything’s a fucking attack… and then call me the sensitive baby…. good job, you played yourself.

Tim Bey-Sahjaza

After the way I was treated when I visited the Asetian home, BY INVITATION, I have zero respect for the Asetians or anyone that stands with or for them. If you really want to see behaviour I’ll put RVL’s 3000+ page views per month, 120 countries world wide and 1250 plus Twitter followers on your timeline and on the Asetian case… capiche?

Mavenlore Scalzi

[inset popcorn eater gif]

Tim Bey-Sahjaza

Now be a good girl, shut up and go away. BYE

Tim Bey-Sahjaza

Sage Hawk you are a supreme idiot and a supreme poser. You may leave now.

Christopher Rogue Ostrowski

WHOA! SEE? This is the shit we are talking about. Stop it. No more. Healthy Debate is good. It gets out ideas. Insults and Sarcasm do nothing!

Sage Hawk

Christopher Rogue Ostrowski this is what EVERY FUCKING DAY is like in the VC.

I can’t talk resonably without this horse shit.

Christopher Rogue Ostrowski

I know. It has to end. We are are going to get nowhere fast. Everyone to their respective corners and take a breather.

Marmoon Bey

Wait a minute Christopher … she attacked Madame X first because she has no idea what goes on in individual Houses in the VC … yes, this is a young person acting like a petulant child

Derek Lestat

I can’t exactly attend any events in NY or NJ, being that I’m in Chicago, but I can review what I see of them, and what I do not.

I do not see Madame X trying to sell anything. I do not see her hawking fangs to the dance clubs. I do not see her selling…See more

Sage Hawk

Marmoon Bey I didn’t attack Madame x I asked a legit question and gave legit criticism of her adds. Get over it.

Christopher Rogue Ostrowski

Marmoon Bey I have been. I am putting my foot down. Your fault, my fault, nobody’s fault. just stop and relax.

Sage Hawk

Thank you Derek Lestat for explaining more. No one else was mature enough to do that. Either way it would be a good idea to rethink the adds. Because they do look like glorified halloween party adds.

Tim Bey-Sahjaza

Okay, that is the line… first an attack on Madame X, now disrespecting my lady wife. Y’alls right – now enough is enough…!

All innocent bystanders Stand Back please.

Marmoon Bey

I didn’t lay blame on anyone … I didn’t say it was anybody’s fault … I don’t even know you or Sage …

Christopher Rogue Ostrowski

Marmoon- that is a saying my Great Grandmother used when I was a kid. Just please. Evertone calm down

Derek Lestat

I will also point out something else I’m seeing: friends, brothers/sisters, those I don’t yet know, EVERYBODY FUCKING CHILL JUST ONE MOMENT.

Playing devil’s advocate, I’m seeing perpetuation of the problem on both sides here.

How about EVERYBODY walk away from the keyboards for five minutes, then come back refreshed?…


So, let’s take my good friend Derek’s advice, let’s step back and look at exactly what happened shall we?

The first striking comment that Mz. Hawk made was, “The elders disappear and abandon this community and then wonder why z and y act this way?”

I would suggest that, if we were to take a poll of all of the longest serving members of the modern culture we would find that there are quite a number of them, the majority in fact, who have never, or rarely, left the “community” for any length of time. This indeed begs the question as to where Mz. Hawk has actually been and for how long?

 

A little further on and you can see we are treated to; “I have been noticing that. I used to respect Michelle but not so much anymore. She and Madame x just post about vampire balls and seminars…. fuck that shit.”

Excuse me, say what? This is about where the whole discussion/argument/debate starts to go downhill. I would suggest that when a person “steps up”, no matter who they may be, and starts flinging insults at people who have been in the modern Vampire Culture from its very birth then we know we’ve got a problem on our hands.

This is followed up by the statement, “Well Madame X unless you have something other than Facebook going on … I saw 2-3 posts by you daily in the Facebook VC, and they were all about vampire parties. So perhaps you should look at your own stuff and how you come off for a second before having an attitude.”

Obviously Mz. Hawk has absolutely no knowledge whatsoever of House of The Dreaming and The Iron Garden…

 

I will leave you to read the rest for yourself dear reader but suffice to say that further impudent demands and insults were levelled against Madame X, and others. Now, some folks are going to say that I baited Mz. Hawk to one extent or another… I put it to you I merely investigated how far she was willing to take her own “attitude” and behaviour. When questions were put to her she backed away with some over-quoted, often used evasions but gave no answers nor offered any evidence that she had “stepped up” as she was demanding others do.

This, in essence, demonstrates exactly what drew the author of the article on Ageism in the culture to write as they did. It’s exactly what drew commentators to react angrily to that article, it seems that this is may become a new, and MUCH un-needed dividing line in the modern culture. This needs to be seen and treated as a major priority or we may end up with a divided culture, divided by age…!!! Imagine, The Young VC and The VC

Whatever your feeling on this matter there are several facts that are, and must be, held to be self-evident:

  1. There are a great many people who have been in the culture for a long time and who have been working, and giving of their time and lives freely, to create, as best they can, a strong cultural foundation for modern living Vampires.
  2. There are a number of “young” people in today’s culture who do not know exactly what the the long-term members of the culture do, either within their own house or even outside of it in the real world community.
  3. The modern Vampire culture is, in large part, very welcoming, supportive and nurturing of newcomers be they young or not. The major, respectable, well run and long standing Houses and Orders have structured learning, advice and people who will help newcomers without expecting anything in return. Anybody who can’t find an Elder/Mentor isn’t looking very hard.
  4. The people who have given so much of themselves for years to build and serve the Vampire culture should not have to put with abusive behaviour, petulant demands and being sworn by people who have no respect for either the people they are talking to nor, I would suggest, for themselves. That is called harassment. Plain and simple.

It is also common knowledge that the majority of the members at the longer serving end of the spectrum have crossed paths at one time or another, perhaps several times and we will absolutely, always and without a second thought defend those who have put their heart and soul into this culture. Expect nothing less if you want to come in and make a spectacle of yourself.

 

The crux of the problem then, KNOWLEDGE.

People coming along with none, or little, picking someone to take a tilt at when they have no idea what their target does, runs, works at or contributes.

ADVICE: Before you sling off at someone make sure of your facts.

People coming along all full of vim and vigour, piss and pepper, without realising that they are not the first, not “the conscience” and not the “crusader” they think of themselves as being.

ADVICE: Leave the “shoulder chip” and the “badass attitude” at the door, neither will get you very far in the culture and you will find yourself being banned all over because your “honesty” is merely your cherished “perception”.

 

True enough the old saying, if you’re going to cause trouble… “Know thine enemy”.

I suppose last piece of advice that I could possibly give here is, if you are going to come into the culture and start a fight you may want to bring along a hundred or so friends and a really heavy suit of the Master Chief’s armour – you’re going to need it before you get thrown out…!

As my friend Derek said, let’s just think about this for a minute…or five, shall we?

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