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RVN Site News 07/21/12

Good evening,
You will probably notice, if you haven’t already, that the RVN Site is undergoing some changes… a little “re-vamping” if you like.

After a hiatus forced on him by RL and work matters John Reason will be rejoining us very soon now and at the moment he is re-working the site and its appearance. Many of you may recall we had, earlier this year, a catastrophic server crash, well, we’re well beyond that now and coupled with a new look we will be continuing our work to bring you quality reading material from the heart of the culture.

We have been blessed lately in making some new friends, contacts and meeting some new colleagues. One of the most important things that has happened for us, and something that makes us extremely proud and honoured, is that we have been both welcomed to, and named as a “companion” to, “Bloodlit Radio” by DJ Father CoVen.


Another thing that we are extremely honoured to announce is that the lady Ravens Rose has agreed to join our team at RVN as a Staff Member. Bringing her experience as a webmistress and group owner, and with her style and grace, she will, we are certain, make a splendid addition to our Staff. We welcome her with our highest regards and deepest respects.


Since opening our RVN Facebook group we have been joined by some old friends and some new friends, the membership is growing and we are greatly encouraged by the early success of the RVN Facebook Social Group. You can, of course, also follow RVN on Twitter. Lady M hosts both of these important social network projects on behalf of RVN.


All in all we believe we can confidently predict that things at RVN will continue in an altogether bigger and better vein… (No pun intended of course)


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Crossroads ~ Playing the man

Date: 2 Apr 2012

Author: Tim

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In many contact sports today you may have heard the term, “Playing the man”, or some derivative of it, used. In essence it calls into question the sportsmanlike conduct of a player whose purpose is not to play the game but rather to “take out” or hinder an opposing player who is considered a threat by one’s manager.

On the field of sport it is frowned upon, in its extreme it is punishable by professional fines and playing suspensions for the offenders… in the OVC it is the national sport.

The Right Honourable Baroness Margaret Thatcher LG, OM, PC, once said;

I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.”

A statement that I happen to believe and subscribe to ardently…

For as long as anyone in the OVC can possibly recall it has been the way of things, a person comes up with an idea, a concept, a question, a premise and immediately, in a great many quarters, they are set upon and ridiculed, lambasted, hounded, insulted and reviled. The IDEA is not even addressed for the most part, whatever concept they are proposing or theory they are asking for opinion on receives no “informed” comment but is resoundingly, unerringly and completely trashed but not in the manner of a rational, nor even barely civilised, rebuttal but more from a personal mud-slinging point of view.

If this “mud-slinging” is at all defensible then it seems always to be on the basis of “freedom of speech”… a worthy concept but even those who bleat about it the loudest must surely have heard, at some time in the past, the old saying that “with freedom comes responsibility” and, if they haven’t, or they choose to deny they have, then they are doing themselves no good at all, let alone anyone else trying to read about the matter.

Several examples that have surfaced of late:

Whaaa? OK, thats the newest, stupidest thing Ive heard you say yet ***. ****** asked me a question, and i answered it. What. The. F**k are you smoking over there?!

This answer could probably have been answered in a more intelligent and less insulting manner.

just because a lot of people LIKE you or like what you do, doesnt make you correct. Not by a long shot.”

Personal dislike rising above the facts and evidences? Perhaps having a lot of people “like” you doesn’t make you “correct” but it certainly makes you “influential”.

What I see here is a profound lack of understanding of what the process of evolution actually is, and how it works. Without going into detail–no. Just, no.”

Nice, a first class cop-out. What about backing up the No-just-no with something factual? If there is a perceived “profound lack of understanding” correct it with facts and the truth of the matter.

You don’t need to accept, understand or agree with my examples, you just need to turn on your computer and go for a wander around the online community, I’m sure you can fill a page in half an hour or so. Then, quite probably like me, you may well be left wondering whether it’s even worth turning the computer on again. This is not a matter of making a point about manners, about showing respect or about being intelligent; it’s got much more to do with having self-respect.

Being fully aware that there will probably be commentators who will feel the need to mention the timeworn adage, “Rather than whining about the way things are do something about it” I can only say that I would dearly love to do something about it but for that I would need the cooperation of around…oh, say a thousand community members. If that happened then we could change things but until such a thing becomes possible there’s the way we WANT things to be and there’s the way things ARE.


Another recent comment that, on the surface of it would seem to be relatively pointless as far as imparting any NEW information went like this:

This group and the community as a whole is inudated with assholes and bullies like * who go out of their way to harass, flame and harm others,”

The one useful note in the comment refers to “bullies” and is the recognition of a primary and core problem within the situation. Thus it can be clearly seen, unfortunately and as much as we might not wish it so, there is a certain amount of “unpleasantness” , even overt bullying, that goes with the territory and it is a well known fact that online bullying can, and does, have disastrous and even fatal consequences.


Until self-respect takes the place of ego, until rationality takes the place of pride, until common sense and common courtesy take the place of belligerent self-indulgence we are stuck in a quagmire of chaotic rambling that delivers very little real benefit and even those who ARE trying to work for some benefit to the community are doomed to be drowned in what one commentator called “a rational anarchy”. “Rational Anarchy”, an interesting concept but hardly useful since one side of the equation negates the other… perhaps rather than “rational anarchy” we might employ the term “chaotic adherence”, it would certainly seem to me to be a more accurate description.

All in all, if anything is to be achieved, if anything is to agreed on, if anything is to be employed for the betterment of the community, then “playing the man” must be taken out of the game, either that or we just enjoy the ride on the maniacal merry-go-round ad infinitum and ad nauseum.

There is, naturally, the VERY real probability that the removal of the “Don’t worry about the idea, attack the person” mindset is impossible to achieve, for a large number of reasons. The “belligerence” of certain commentators, the acidic and insulting arrogance and meaningless rhetoric may well be the mask that the REAL person hides behind on-line in order to assuage their feelings of impotence or unimportance in their real lives. Perhaps the people who are so eager and ready to sling the barbs and throw out the obnoxious comments are so ineffectual in real life that they must get behind a keyboard and ‘role-play’ being “someone” on-line. Either that or there are a great many people out there who must get their lights punched out on a VERY regular basis.

In the beginning of the film “The Shawshank Redemption”, if memory serves Morgan Freeman’s character, as the narrator, says:

“Someone once said the world is a fine place and worth fighting for. I’d agree with the second part.”

I would suggest that the same may be said of the Online Vampire Community, or perhaps I am simply bashing my head into a wall in trying to make a difference.

Copyright TB 2012

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Crossroads: Into the OVC – Which way now?

29 Mar 2011

Author: Tim

This is written especially for those of you who have recently arrived in this wonderful, glamorous, delightfully rambunctious cyber-playground that is the OVC, the Online Vampire Community.

Let me ask you something, do you know why you’ve come here? Is it because you really dig vampires? Do you want to find out all about vampires? Do you want to know if vampires exist, are real? Do you believe that you might be a modern living Vampire?

Do you want to immerse yourself in something that is radically different because your “reality” is not all you want it to be?

Whatever your reasons for being here, Welcome.

Sincerely, welcome. Like any other community this one thrives on the influx of new people, new ideas and new perspectives but also, like any other community, you are going to need to find your way around so that you don’t get swamped in the maelstrom that is the OVC. Entering any new community is like starting a new job, or going to a new school. You want to be accepted for who and what you are. You want people who will listen and, hopefully, give you encouragement and support. It’s always a difficult thing to fit into a new social group and the easiest way you can approach it is by looking and listening, or in this case reading, first.


There are a myriad “real vampire” groups to choose from. If you Google the term, ‘real vampire groups’ you will get about 770,000 results in 0.17 seconds. That’s a lot of information to sift through to pick the ‘good apples’ from the ‘bad apples’, so to speak. The best tactic, I would suggest, is to see if any of your friends or net-friends have got recommendations. Anyone who has been around the OVC for a time will know the better places, and the not so good ones. People you know are your first, best, source of advice.

Failing that, start with two or three of the groups at the top of the Google search because they are, by virtue of their position in the search engine lists, the most frequented. Once you arrive at these groups then join one or more, hey… you have to take the plunge sometime right? Go along into the forums or discussion areas and take a look at what’s there, particularly the “hot” topic or the “featured” topics. These are the ones with the most input from group members. Go into the discussion and look at what the discussion consists of, look at the replies, the tone of the discussion and the “manner” of the discussion.

I have been in the OVC for around ten years now and in that time I have been involved with up to forty or so groups at times; I have recommendations to make that I will leave with you at the end of this piece. I also have my dislikes, no different to anybody else in the community. The truth of the matter is you will find a great difference between how different groups are run.

You will find groups with large memberships (in the hundreds) but only have the same ten or twenty in and about on anything approaching a regular basis. You will find groups that have “Rules”, “Regulations” or “Codes of Conduct” that they expect their members to abide by – take a look in their forums and see whether or not they actually enforce or regularly monitor and control members who break those rules. This can tell you a lot about the management of the group, whether they are actually concerned with the rank and file membership or, are the leaders of the group oblivious and only concerned with their own agenda and projects.

See whether the discussions are kept “on track” or whether they deteriorate into ‘slanging’ matches between respondents and sink further into the abyss of personal insult and abuse. These groups are, most likely, not what you are looking for since they often treat newcomers or “newbies” with some measure of disdain if not downright scorn.

You will also find groups who will welcome you warmly, as long as you purchase their “Teachings” or “Bible”. If you wish to part with money to make you feel more like you belong, that is your choice but don’t be fooled into thinking that because you part with money that you will find the “truth”. Everybody has their ‘version’ of the truth and the best thing you can do is read what’s available, think about it, ask questions and form your own opinion.

You will find groups that are ruled with the proverbial “iron fist”, they will tell you that you, along with everyone else who wishes to learn, are welcome. What they really mean is that, “You are welcome as long as you keep your opinion to yourself and don’t challenge what we say.”

You will find places run by the four-hundred year old Lord BloodU Fangstreek or some such, they will promise you the “dark secrets” and probably eternal life/ love etc. etc. – trust me, stay clear.

You’re probably thinking, by now, “geez, isn’t there a decent one among them?” well, the good news is, yes, there are. There are a number of reputable sites that will give you the help, encouragement and welcome that you need to feel comfortable coming into the “new school”. They are groups that are made up of diverse individuals from all corners of the world and who are, to one degree or another, committed to helping the newcomers find their way and become settled.

There are groups where the staff and administrators run a good “ship” and know when to allow leeway and when to head-off trouble and these are the sorts of places you need to look for.

One of the best places that I have ever found is a web-board in the Yuku system called Smoke and Mirrors.

Owned by Lady CG, a long time member of the VC and OVC, who is a published author in matters vampiric, and ably managed by HellKat and her staff, Smoke and Mirrors offers a comfortable, welcoming and resource packed place for the newcomer… and even some of the older hands, to find sensible information and sound discussion on a whole range of issues and interests.

Another invaluable resource is the website of SphynxCatVP. Her Real Vampires Support page has long been regarded as one of the most influential and sound resources on the web in the matter of real vampires.

Above all, in and around the VC/OVC, keep your wits about you and take everything with a pinch of salt. Above all, remember, there are dangerous elements to any society; elements that result in such as the Carly Ryan case and the Timothy White “vampire slayer” case where, ( See: CBS 47 Jacksonville, March 15 2004) according to police, 35-year-old White entered a westside pizza shop on Normandy Boulevard around 8pm. He told the employees he was a vampire slayer and then, allegedly, shot store employee David Harrison. Harrison was taken to Shands Jacksonville with life-threatening injuries.
White was arrested in a nearby church parking lot. White had a knife, a sawed off shotgun and three pistols with him.

Such cases, while they are by no means in the majority as the media may have us believe, are there. My advice? Start with the two links I have provided and you will find your feet safely and quickly.

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