“Sin nominee”, “Persona non grata”, Community Warnings and other such instruments.

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Tim & Lady M.

Good evening Ladies and Gentlemen,

It has become apparent, recently, that there is some level of confusion about the “What”, “Why” and “Wherefore” that is represented by certain terms and actions that may be taken within our culture against certain people.

We thought it may be a good idea if we wrote a little something on the subject for those who may not quite understand “what th’ hell just happened here?” In “layperson’s” terms we will do our best to explain what is meant by some of the more serious sounding terms that are used within the society of the modern living Vampire.

There are, as we know, people in any society who are incorrigible, offensive, abusive or just downright dangerous… dangerous not only to some abstract concept such as “the community” but are truly a clear and present, potential danger, to the health, safety and wellbeing of individuals within “the community”. In this we are no different than human (mundane) society, we are still facing the same pressures, the same challenges and the same trials, simply on a focused and culturally significant level.

Let’s deal, firstly, with a term that one might hear fairly regularly around the place, “Persona non Grata Sin Nominee”. This is a joint definition and is derived from a Latin term and an English political term.

1:  persona non grata

noun [ C not after the ] UK   /pəˌsəʊ.nə nɒn ˈɡrɑː.tə/ US  /pɚˌsoʊ.nə nɑːn ˈɡrɑː.t̬ə/ plural personae non gratae

I: specialized politics; a person who is not wanted or welcome in a particular country, because they are unacceptable to its government:

II: someone who is not popular or accepted by others: [1]

 

2: Sin nomine:

Latin for “without name”. A vampire who has been stripped of his or her name and recognition within the community for having committed some great crime in the eyes of the community. (See also “excommunicated” and “Invisibles”.) [2]

Put them together and you have the full usage term.

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The lesser of two evils?

It is possible to have a “persona non grata” without a “sin nominee” however, consider this. A person has been proven to have committed certain acts which, while they may not be considered “some great crime”, have caused enough negative thinking, talking, feeling, or introduced some other instability that threatens to drag others into an argument, or causes “feud” between two houses, or organisations.

Okay, not a “great crime” but certainly something that warrants the perpetrator being identified as an “undesirable element” – this then constitutes the “persona non grata”, a move designed to have the person avoided, not spoken to, about or with.

Quite often you will find the “lesser of the evils” being adopted by individual Houses, Havens, Courts or other organisations. These organisations, either individually, or in company with several others, may issue a collective “writ of persona non grata” against an individual and then no one from the “house/s” involved (providing they are loyal to their House) will communicate further with the person.

This is used in a fairly “low key” issue that generally is used in contained circumstances.

Stepping up to a more serious level we will see a “Persona non grata sin nominee” issued, usually by a group, or number of, organisations that have gathered hard evidence of wrongdoing, which may include criminal activity, and are able to, literally, “name the sin” that was committed by an individual.

Issuing a writ of “Persona non grata sin nominee” is usually only used as a last resort where there is considered to be a real, present, physical or psychological threat to other members of the modern Vampire culture.

 

So, what is a Community Warning?

 

This is what we saw recently issued by a leading body of long term members of the modern culture.[3] A community warning is exactly what it says, literally. It is a warning and, as the recent event showed us, it is usually accompanied by a brief statement of the reasons, causes and proofs gathered to lead to the warning being issued.

Unlike the “Persona non grata” and the “sin nominee” the “Warning” is not telling anyone to ignore, avoid, dump, block or take any action whatsoever… it is a warning in the public interest and leaves it to the individual to decide, in the face of solid evidence, whether they want to be warned or not, and whether they wish to take action to protect themselves.

At the end of the day the person responsible for your safety, health and welfare is YOU. Not “the community”, not any specific group, House, Clan, E-zine, News site, Haven or Order… YOU.

 

Consequences of these actions?

It’s always hard to gauge whether there are, in point of fact, consequences to any of these events happening… unless of course someone receives an abusive, vulgar and unsubstantiated telephone rant in response to the situation.

Supporters of the people against whom these instruments are used will ALWAYS leap to the defence of their “leader” with little regard for any evidence that may be available. Friends of the person who is the subject of either of these three things will sit back and say, “No one has the right to judge another…!” and they may well close ranks around their “friend” for no better reason than the person marked is a long time “friend” (be it real life or cyber friend)

Critics of the person marked with either of these issuances will be ever ready to spread word of the “evil” that was perpetrated in order to draw attention to the issue of proclamation, excommunication or ‘Persona non grata’… in the end analysis these things will only have as much effect as they can be proven and supported. What continued “discussion and debate” about them will do is, quite often, pander to the “attention seeking” portion of the subject’s persona.

Whenever either of these three things happens it always raises questions. Questions such as, “What proof do you/they have for defaming this person?”, “Why are you assholes picking on my friend?”, “FFS, WTF is going on now?” and “Who gave you/them the right to issue any fucking thing?”

The answers are very, and deceptively, simple.

In any society, if someone fucks up and goes against the “societal norm” in a dangerous fashion, they are dealt with accordingly. Being modern living Vampires does NOT give us any special rights to go about screwing around with other folks, assaulting other folks, robbing other folks or generally just doing whatever the fuck we feel like. Doesn’t work that way. If a member of our culture does any of these things then we must expect that this behaviour will be brought to light in a big way, especially if it is part of a series of events that have taken place over months or years.

In our ”society” WE have the right to determine whether we will suffer bad people to remain active within our ranks, they don’t get to decide… it goes right along with the popular train of thought that criminals give up their “rights” when they commit a crime.

Everybody is titled to a “fair defence”, right, absolutely…however, let us ask ourselves, if they have ZERO evidence to offer in defence and the other side has amassed a large amount of solid and un-refutable proof of transgression, what is the most likely outcome, according to any intelligent thinking observer?

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Potential FAQ’s about “proclamations” and warnings:

Q: Do “malicious“announcements or ‘proclamations’ ever get flung around the place?
ANS: Hell Yes, this is the modern living Vampire culture and society… happens all the time dontcha know?

Q: So which ones do we pay attention to?
ANS: The ones that offer proof and evidence of wrong doing, not simply rhetoric, unsupported accusations and so forth – however, with this one you must also remember that every House, Coven, Haven, Order or Organisation has the right to conduct itself, within its own membership and confines, in any way they see fit.

Q: What do I do if I get “Sin nominee”???
ANS: Well, first advice would be, find out why you have been “Sin Nomineed” (if you already know skip next step) and if you have proof positive that you DID NOT commit the transgression/s then try contacting the body that issued the proclamation or make contact with a friend that can do so.

Q: Can I challenge a “Sin Nominee” or “persona non grata”?
ANS: Absolutely, if you believe it to be in error, you can try contacting the issuing body (with or without a friends help) and see if you can get an “appeal” hearing. Present your ROCK SOLID evidence to prove you didn’t do the wrong thing and you will find most people (unless they hate your guts for personal reasons) will be reasonable enough to reconsider.

…and our particular favourite,

Q: “What gives so-and-so the right to issue these things about people?”
ANS: Again, easy, the same right that you have to contact the police if you see someone wandering down your darkened street carrying a gun. Clear and present danger. If it is discovered, and apparent, that a person is a credible threat, physically, to other members of the Vampire society, then I would suggest that the person, House, organisation or whatever that discovers the fact/s has something of a duty to make their suspicions AND proof known to the society.

In conclusion:

What do the “Persona non grata”, the “Sin nominee” and “Community Warning” have in common?

They are the vehicles by which information of a critical nature to health, safety and welfare concerns get passed around the Vampire society. They need harsh sounding names because, in the main, they are dealing with safety issues.

Who’s responsible for putting these things together and getting them out there? No one and everyone.

Who’s responsible for looking into the situation, taking the advice in and making decisions based on the advice and proof offered – EVERYONE.

If you get hurt because you choose to ignore a warning, a “sin nominee” or other advice no one is at fault but you. Regardless of how many S/N’s, PnG’s or Warnings are issued, at the end of the day, you get to make the final decision…We suggest you get informed, stay up to date and choose wisely…!

Copyright T/Lady M & RVL, 2018.

 

Refs:

1. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/

2. http://www.sanguinarius.org/terminology.shtml

3. https://realvampirenews.com/vvc-global-statement-of-warning/

 

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