Chatting with Vampires ~ A Pranic roundtable

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Prana –  ( n. )

In Eastern  medicine, martial arts etc. cosmic energy believed to come from the sun and connecting the elements of the universe.

[from Sanskrit, literally: life-force]

Ref: Collins English Dictionary – Complete & Unabridged 10th Edition
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The concept of a universal energy is not a new one, neither is the concept of the Sun being the penultimate “life-giving” force in the cosmos. Purely, perhaps, because the concept of Prana is beyond the capacity of current scientific disciplines to measure or quantify it is relegated, by many commentators, to the realm that is known as “metaphysical” ~ if, however, our thinking is not rigidly bounded by scientific principles as mankind currently understands them then we can begin to perceive the metaphysical, and hence Prana, as a more real and proactive energy in the cosmos.

RVN has, over the recent weeks, been presenting the personal concepts of a number of reputable commentators in defining and discussing a range of vampiric types. So far we have talked with Hybrid vampires, a Psionic vampire, Sanguinarians and Psi-vampires. Today we have the distinct privilege of chatting with the Vampires of Nakshidil, a quartet of pranic vampires under the guidance of Emilie Conroy.  Emilie, Phobos Knight, Marilys Mars, and Seth Lachaise will delve into yet another intriguing facet of modern vampirism.

    “We who have gathered under the banner of the Eastern Tulip and of Nakshidil have composed the following statement to clarify who we are, what we do, and our amicable and supportive relationship with other communities.

     As a woman of the eighteenth century, Nakshidil was a force of nature.  We have chosen to honor her spirit and her ability to change the world around her.  Nakshidil herself would not have worded it this way, of course, but all the same she knew how to use her portion of the universal energy to affect changes as she saw fit.

     Nakshidil was an energy worker and architect, and so are we.  Our central purpose is to work with the universal living energy, to influence changes and perceptions.  We believe that anyone willing to put the effort into understanding the nature of energy—that it is living and that it is what makes up everything—can reap the benefits of the Eastern Tulip.

     There is some confusion as to whether or not we are vampires.  Naturally, this all depends on how one is defining vampire.  Ourselves, we do not call ourselves vampires.  We are not a part of the vampire community, but rather we exist parallel to it as friendly outsiders.  If using the term vampire somehow makes us less confusing, we have no problem with other people calling us such—it is, after all, a noble term—but we would once again emphasize our desire to remain separate and independent from the community.

     As for the rest, we are only in the early stages of codifying and compiling the Eastern Tulip, our umbrella expression for our activities.  We are using the Tacrostica as our moral and ethical compass.  We are a path in progress based in what has been tested and tried and in what is new.

     Wisdom be with you.”

     —Eastern Tulip, the Order of Nakshidil


RVN: Good evening Emilie, Phobos, Marilys, and Seth, and thank you for joining us at Real Vampire News.

EC:  It’s a pleasure to be working with RVN.  I can really appreciate the integrity and the professionalism.  Over the years I’ve been approached by a variety of media outlets, but this is one of only a handful I can take seriously.

PK: We’re always being invited to appear on camera to show the world our kind of vampirism.  So far these have been efforts to exploit the real vampire or the investigators have been disappointed by our fairly normal lifestyles.


RVN: Would you share with us how, and when, you first became aware of your own vampiric nature?

EC:  We’ve agreed to use my story here.  For the sake of clarity, I’ll start from the beginning.

My mentor—the woman responsible for bringing me into the vampire fold and for teaching me this decidedly different philosophy—was Anne de Molay (she may or may not have been descended from Jacques de Molay, the last Grand Master of the Knights Templar), the late founder of the Order of Maidenfear, who passed in 2003.  She was a friend of my family and a true role model to me for her compassion and her endless pursuit of knowledge.

SL:  Just to mention, Anne de Molay was my grandmother, and the amount of writing, research, and knowledge she left is an Everest of a lifetime.

EC: She began applying the term “vampire” to her evolving philosophy of human metaphysical power and universal energy working based upon Anton LaVey’s discussion of psychic vampires as it appeared in the 1967 Satanic Bible.  Anne wasn’t so much interested in Satanism as she was in the seemingly logical application of the word to mean something other than the bloodsucking undead.

MM:  I think people have lost sight of how revolutionary LaVey’s book really was at the time, and he seems to have been the first to have thought of vampires outside the box.

EC:  I was in my early teens when Anne and I began discussing her  and  in detail, and I felt a great harmony between myself and the worldview I was beginning to build and Anne’s notion of the vampire, which she defined as the following.

There exists an entity of living energy all around us and in the universe. This energy is both alive itself and imbues all things with life of one degree or another. A vampire is an adept at energy play, an adept at tapping into this living energy for self-benefit. A vampire knows how to take what energy they want and need and use it for their own purposes.

And so, by this definition, I was aware of my vampiric nature by my late to mid-teens.

PK: And this is the definition I go by as well.

MM: As do I.

SL:  And me too.


RVN: Did you recognise that you were a Pranic Vampire immediately or did you arrive at the conclusion over a period of time?

EC: I don’t remember a time when I didn’t feel engaged with the living energy of the universe, but I was fortunate to have good people to guide me into a state of peaceful realization.  The definitions put before me were almost perfectly reflective of the conclusions I’d reached independently.  I took time to search and contemplate, but I knew from the start that I’d found a kindred.

SL:  I’m still not sure I am a pranic vampire.  I’m not keen on the “vampire” notion.


RVN: For the benefit of our readers who may not be familiar with the term “Pranic Vampire” please describe what it means to be one?

EC:  Pranic seems to mean different things for different people.  For me, it’s all about the living energy which is the foundation of the universe (and physics bears this out) and working with that energy to achieve a desired result.

MM: No one discusses the immortal aspect of the vampire much.  But as science has born out, energy can never be destroyed.  It only changes form.  Is this a kind of immortality?  I’m not sure, but it’s something to think about.


R.V.N: …and where does the energy that Pranic-Vampires feed on come from?

EC:   Everywhere!  Prana is the universe and everything in the universe.  An individual only needs to perceive the prana.  Personally I gain and give this energy through healing, particularly pranic midwifery.

PK: The idea that everything in the universe is actually made up of one thing—call it prana for the moment—seems difficult to grasp.  But this is what makes us part of everything.


R.V.N: What is your personal philosophy on vampirism, as a Pranic Vampire?

MM:   A vampire’s strength is in a vampire’s independence.  Having groups and communities can be productive, but ultimately a vampire is a sovereign being.  This is an essential paradox, because if the universe is made up of energy that is in everything, then all vampires are part of that energy as well, and there really isn’t anything like being solitary.

EC: But we don’t call ourselves pranic vampires.  We actually haven’t found the right term to express ourselves.  So until we do, we’ll be defined by our actions and our ideas.
R.V.N: Do you think that there are, or may well be, many Psi-vampires out there who are actually Pranic Vampires but whom do not realise it?

EC:  I already hold that psychic vampires are pranic vampires according to their own practices, but I have to wonder how many psychic vampires would want to be brought into the wider universe of the pranic.

R.V.N: Is there a particular focal place or group, in the OVC, for Pranic Vampires?

EC.:  Well technically all foci and groups can be embraced by the pranic vampire, but I tend to think our discussions belong on more metaphysical or spiritual areas.  And we definitely have no time for drama or social politics.

MM: There might be, but as for us, we’re not part of the OVC.  We run parallel maybe.

EC: We’re not part of the OVC and we don’t want to be part of the OVC—interviews seeking information such as this one notwithstanding.


R.V.N: How, in your view, does Pranic vampirism differ from Psi-vampirism?

E.C.  Psychic vampirism is an exercise of the mind.  Pranic vampirism is working with the universal living energy in all of its forms.

SL: If I could be honest, I’m really worn out by all this fuss about classification and reclassification.  Can’t we just all be what we are and get on with it?
R.V.N: What, if any, are the latest moves to draw Pranic-vampires to a common meeting place on the internet?

PK: I have no idea.

EC:  I was trying for several years before leaving the OVC.  Unfortunately pranic vampirism is difficult to explain and lacks a lot of the draw of other kinds of vampirism.  At its worst a pranic tract reads like a physics textbook.


R.V.N: Do you think there are more people looking to alternatives now than in the past, more Sanguinarians looking further than Sang-life, or more Psi’s looking further afield than Psi-life?

E.C.:  Never be surprised by an individual—of any stripe—who will always insist the grass is greener somewhere else!
R.V.N: On a more personal note, what projects are you currently engaged in?

SL: The economic times have put a real cramp in the number and depth of projects any of us are involved in.  Personally I’m working to stay one step ahead of disaster.

EC: This may come as a surprise, but the four of us are involved in politics, especially the upcoming presidential election.  At the same time that I’m bringing the Eastern Tulip into bloom, I’m following the warning of Ralph Nader—“Turn onto politics before politics turns on you.”

PK: We’ve been working to assemble a book for several months now, and it’s definitely in the not-too-distant future.  But it’s slow going.


R.V.N: There are many who say that the terms “vampire” and “metaphysical” shouldn’t appear together in any sense, especially descriptive. What is your view on that standpoint?

EC:  I have a hard time understanding why people enjoy limiting their own thinking.


RVN: Do you have anything you would care to add on the subject of Pranic-Vampirism?

PK: Only that pranic vampirism is not what we’re doing, or if some people take us a pranic vampires, it’s their personal perception.

EC: I’ll say what I always say in this situation.  Semantics are a pain in my bottom


R.V.N: Thank you, once again, Emilie, Phobos, Marilys, and Seth for visiting with us and giving us a glimpse into the world of the Pranic Vampire. We are most grateful for your time.

EC: I only hope we haven’t managed to make everyone more confused!


Esoteric, metaphysical, avant garde, however you regard the subject of Pranic Vampirism it is a real state of being that is felt by a good many and, as such, is subject to the same understanding and acceptance that other vampires demand for their way of being. No one can completely or irrevocably prove nor disprove the Pranic links to vampirism, nor yet whether Prana is an accessible and nourishing life source for modern vampires but then again Sanguinarians can’t prove that they need blood to survive either.

Whichever way you regard the available information there has to be room for acceptance of each other’s differences and philosophies, and perhaps just a little faith couldn’t hurt either.

© RVN ,  Emilie Conroy, Phobos Knight, Marilys Mars, and Seth Lachaise 2012

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