Roundtable: Leaders Summit 2017

Foreword:

It’s a new world, a new culture, old feuds are dying out, new alliances being forged and new friends being made… a pivotal time for the modern Vampire culture. Co-operation is becoming more than a byword and information is being exchanged at an increasing rate. Now could be the moment to “carpe noctem” and make it become something we have all yearned for.

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Good evening ladies and gentlemen,

Questions, there are always questions in the cultural group to which we, the modern living vampire and Otherkin belong. Some questions are easy to answer having been the subject of wide ranging discussions for years, other questions can’t be answered because we simply do not have the proofs needed to pose a suitable answer. Some answers are personal and as individual as the person posing them to themselves… sometimes the answers are simply a matter of faith, faith in oneself and faith in one’s beliefs.

This editorial is the culmination of an effort, in concert with Clan Resurrectus of Georgia, our co-hosts. This effort was also the culmination of the invaluable time and input of a list of select guests representing the diverse nature of those that occupy the modern vampire subculture and who lead, in one way or another, some of the most important, and integral, segments of the subculture.

Firstly we must introduce, and acknowledge, our invited guests to whom our deepest appreciation, and gratitude goes. (In alphabetical order)

Ankida Mudutu, Mage Elder of Mudutu, Canada

Rev. Aramond Sebastian VanRahamdalph DD, of Clan Rahamdalph, Texas, USA

Matriarch Emilie Conroy of Ophiucus Living Vampires International.

Goddess Rosemary Sahjaza High Priestess and Matriarch, High-Elder Magnus Corvo Obsidian Sahjaza Sacred Scribe et Custos Libros, and Prince and Lord Andreas Sahjaza — Temple House Sahjaza

Lord Traveler Asura-MacPhee Elder/Co-patriarch House Pride of Asura Co-founder and Ambassador Iron Garden, Initiate Order of the Black Marble.

Madame X, Matriarch of House of the Dreaming, Prince of the Gateway Halo, Co-Founder of Dark Nations, Co-Founder of Iron Garden.

Lady Maria Angela, Representative of the Lega Italiana Real Vampires (LIRV) Italy.

Lêow Bundeskanzler Samael S. Adib, Der Haus Drachen.

And our co-host this evening,

Patriarch Stefan Resurrectus of Clan Resurrectus, GA, U.S.A.

“Dissertatio Historico-Philosophica de Masticatione Mortuorum ” ~ Philip Rohr, 1679 ~

Vampire, (also Vampyre) arguably, the word has existed in this form since its first invocation in the seminal work of the poet Heinrich August Ossenfelder entitled, “The Vampire” (ca. 1748) while other forms of the word, like the image of vampiric beings, had existed for centuries prior to that. It is not uncommon, as we all know, for archaic terms to have been carried down to us from long unused dialects and, along that path, such terms become diffuse and take on different meanings and relevance. With this in mind we set out with the idea to determine two things as related to the modern living vampire subculture.

Our guests were asked to consider the following two questions and to present commentary on the questions;

Question 1: Is the term ‘vampire’ still wholly valid and applicable to the wider subculture?

Question 2: What is the best methodology for the subculture to move forward in the 21st century?

 

Our invited guests represent a number of the iconic, highest profile, important and most influential figures in the modern subculture, we were privileged to be joined by established leaders, among whom there are those whom were present at the “birth” of the modern vampire movement, to new, up and coming leaders whom have arrived and seen the disarray with fresh eyes. In this way we have been able to assemble an “across the board” perspective on the two questions we asked. It is from the words of great people, such as these, that all those who engage in interactions with the modern vampire subculture should take heed for they are the voices not only of founders but also of the present and, undeniably, the teachings for the future.

Muskeg, Saskatchewan

Our first guest, Mage Elder Ankida Mudutu, of the House of Mudutu, brings us the following:

“Though I am no longer in the limelight and have become a recluse in the way of the vampire way of life, I still support and counsel groups of varied paths. This arises the content of a question:

Is the term ‘vampire’ still wholly valid and applicable to the wider subculture?

First off I would like to clarify that I am looking at the whole and not a singularity. As a whole we often refer to the Vampire Community, whereas we are a society with communities inside the society under a blanket term of ‘Vampire’.

The term ‘Vampire’ relates as a valid term only in the context of a genre of one single belief and code. We are the mages, wytches, sangs, psy’s, pranic’s, energy, warrior, etc. that do not fit into the conventional mainstream of how the world often tries to slot us in and luckily how the world tries to paint us. So, yes I believe the term holds a wider value much like if I cannot fit the music I like into any one genre, however if you ask me I still label it as one. We are a society of many walks and as we evolve into new universes of life and thought we may change our individual direction in the wind but our eyes are still fixed on the path.

It is not our outward appearance (fangs, symbols, clothing, etc.) that defines us, but it goes deeper into our very core of how we walk within our path and how we treat others in the communities formed by the society.

 

As we move forward into the 21st century, some tend to embrace only the past. This is fine if this is your comfort zone, however it is essential for us to evolve as a whole and move forward. Technology is ever advancing and as a one of magicks, I tend to lean more that we need to move into the 21st century with a broader view of the universe around us and to connect with each other to build an exchange (or bond) of knowledge and not the ego. Not in a sense of “alliances” but in the sense of family. Our dayside talents are quite varied and as a majority quite skilled, and with our Will, there is no reason an exchange of knowledge could be expanded upon.

 

The best move (in my eyes) for this ‘society’ to move forward can be summarized into a simple view. Once we stop trying to fit the communities into a box to see if it fits into a society then a broader expansion of our beliefs and paths can come to an understanding. The universe is defined as just that, and when a new star is discovered that does not fit the “norm” then is it not still part of the universe as long as it follows the laws of the universe itself? Unfortunately we are ruled by human nature and too often we get wrapped up into labeling or genre fits. I like to think we are above this ‘human nature’.

Ankida Mudutu

Mage Elder of Mudutu

a.k.a. PsiVamp (Musician) Ezekiel Damaak – Former House Damaak Elder & Former Magistre of Order of the Light”

Clan Rahamdalph, Texas, U.S.A.

Our next guest, Rev. Aramond Sebastian VanRahamdalph DD, of Clan Rahamdalph, Texas, offers a somewhat different appraisal. He writes:

“Question 1: Is the term ‘vampire’ still wholly valid and applicable to the wider subculture?

A: No. Due to society’s misconceptions & delusions caused by the mainstream media, book, film as well as those who prey upon others desires, we should find/make some term that articulately describes who & what we are.

Question 2: What is the best methodology for the subculture to move forward in the 21st century?

A: We as a subculture need to strive for a better & well rounded educated community while forgoing unattainable “unity” to strive for a more attainable state of congruity.”

It is, perhaps, the birth of another question then – are we seeking definitions or accepting labels?

Ophiucus Living Vampires International

Matriarch Emilie Conroy of Ophiucus Living Vampires International and President of ‘The Quaker City Vampire’ shares the following points with us;

“[A note about my terminology–“living vampire” means both what is also called a “real vampire” as well as the state of existing as a vampire.]

Question 1: Is the term ‘vampire’ still wholly valid and applicable to the wider subculture?

Lately we have been discussing whether we are living in a post-vampire world. Whoever we are and whatever we do as a subculture, “vampire” is a loaded word. It would be difficult to find someone (at least someone who’s been living with other human beings) who didn’t have at least a small reaction or a slight preconceived notion upon hearing the term. In the thirty-some years I have been an active participant in the subculture, I have seen it grow and flourish as more individuals have discovered their own vampire natures. However, I’ve seen little acceptance of new meanings outside of the subculture. To put it another way, living vampires are a hard sell.

Some will say this doesn’t matter. Non-vampires cannot possibly understand the truth anyway, so we shouldn’t concern ourselves. But we don’t exist in a vacuum. Even vampires have to share the planet. We can’t expect people to grasp that what we mean by “vampire” is probably very different from what they might be imagining. On this point we need to make a choice. We can either proceed calling ourselves vampires or be aware of the baggage the word carries, or we can seek out a new term that maybe better embraces us.

I’m a firm believer that the use of a word ultimately defines its meaning. As an example, this is how we are able to identify with the term “vampire” without meaning a crabby revenant craving blood and mayhem from a Saturday horror matinee. But what do we really mean by vampire? Who are “we” anyway? Is there enough room for multiple interpretations?

The subculture has never been so much an ideological whole as it has been a union of independents and individuals. To try and affirm that “vampire” has one definition universally accepted by the subculture is its own kind of dark humor. I know what I mean by vampire, and I know better than to presume it’s shared with anyone else (even if technically I’m aware that others have adopted it for their own use). Absolutes in the vampire subculture is a notion that makes me nervous, but one absolute I can embrace is that there is no one correct, proper, and true definition of the term we all embrace.

Circling back, I believe that the validity and application of “vampire” is dependent upon how its meaning can be adapted to use. I realize that this doesn’t sit well with a significant portion of the subculture who would rather there be one accepted corrected definition–preferably theirs. The irony of supporting independent thought and denotation is that I also recognize the right of participants to adhere to a more restricted interpretation.

For my part, I don’t think this is the way we keep “vampire” alive. Not only should we be open to the different ideas that we read or see or hear, we need to keep our own minds fresh and curious, always receptive to new suggestions and information. If we can allow use to define meaning, “vampire” will stay relevant both today and in the future.

 

Question 2: What is the best methodology for the subculture to move forward in the 21st century?

My bright-eyed and enduring optimism might be speaking here, but…

The vampire subculture of 2017 now has several decades of success to its credit. We need to step back and appreciate this for the accomplishment it is. We’ve grown, we’ve flourished, we’ve created. We’ve had problems and we’ve bounced back. We’ve suffered losses and internal disputes and yet we continue. Perhaps the greatest strength of the vampire subculture is in its resilient nature. In any event, through endless work and dedication we’ve created a subculture that now has a considerable history. Examining that history gives us ideas of how to chart our continued progress in the future.

In my view the greatest leap forward has been a new interest in scientific and medical research. The idea that the living vampire has physiological components is too important to avoid. I know many in the subculture for whom living vampire is a physical, biological condition. My own experience with pernicious anaemia and the subsequent functional need for blood not my own (usually by transfusion, although I have a monogamous donor who’s helped me through the rough times, even long before I had a diagnosis) has brought me into the science-aware medical sanguinarian community–I cannot stress enough what a tremendous help it’s been. For a successful future, we need to encourage this scientific approach. Maybe it destroys the “romanticism” of the vampire, but in practical terms for many living vampires, it’s an affliction that needs to be assuaged at the same time it is embraced.

Many of us who have publicly identified ourselves with the subculture have been contacted by seekers wondering if we have been “turned” or if we would be willing to “turn” them. Naturally we know turning is the stuff of overheated fiction. What we need to keep in mind is that a seeker may be completely sincere in approaching us, in feeling somehow out of step with the world. They simply may not know of any other way to put what they are asking. In every instance when a seeker reaches out to us there may be a true living vampire. It’s always been my policy to at least find out the depth of interest before writing anyone off as delusional or a role player–and in most cases, I’ve found it worth my time. It would be a great development if the subculture had the patience to give seekers a chance, even if they ask about turning. We were all novices once…right?

 

Speaking of, there’s plenty of room for improvement in how we treat each other. I’ve been part of many discussions on the subject, and the only conclusion I’ve reached is that there’s no ready solution. A lot of vampires don’t want any part of a social convention or code of politesse. As I also understand that the living vampire inherently defies rules and regulations (that is, those impressed upon them–there’s always the hope of common sense and courtesy) I can’t in good conscience disagree. How to have etiquette without anyone feeling bound by etiquette? It’s something to consider.

Something I’ve always believed but apparently isn’t universally accepted is that living vampires are equals. I see it as a means of survival. After all, we’re one subculture in a world that, in a sense, is not ours. We have far more in common than we have separating us. Speaking as the former head of a vampire order and the impetus of several other subculture enterprises, I think we are exiting the age of houses, orders, and formal groups. The nature of the living vampire cannot be contained. We can have unions of individuals, but hierarchies will only serve those who somehow find themselves on top. I honestly mean no offense to “leaders” of the subculture. I also know that those who have become movers in the subculture through work, patience, service, sacrifice, generosity of spirit, and dedication will understand what I mean.

Another area in which I’m qualified to comment is the living vampire subculture as it exists in the physical world. There have been attempts at determining just how many living vampires exist. From what I’ve read, the number of living vampires in the world is many times greater than what is represented in the online community. Considering the living vampires I know in my own area and how few of us are active online, I’d have to agree with this assessment. How reflective of the physical living vampire culture, then, is the online community? It’s much easier to argue endlessly with someone who (in many cases) is nothing but electrical impulses on a computer screen. It takes less courage to sling gossip and slander and insult in the relative anonymity of the online world. To this end, the online community would benefit from more face-to-face encounters with living vampires in the real world. When the flesh is made real, the emotions may follow.

My last point addresses a personal mission of mine, one that many real vampires may feel no obligation to entertain. None of us live in a vacuum. Like it or not, we share the planet with other people, and most of those people hold very different views. In a perfect world, people would understand what’s printed about our subculture as a cross section of a population with endless variety and variations. The problem is that much of what has been presented is fundamentally misleading. It won’t hoodwink long time vampires who know what’s going on, but it might very well have a biased sway over the general reading population–and worse, over the readily-influenced “new to vampirism” crowd. If we’re going to co-exist, we need to tell the straight facts about living vampirism. We shouldn’t get bogged down in ridiculous metaphysical prose. To exist in peace with

the mainstream, we need to write for the mainstream.”

Temple House Sahjaza

By the grace of Goddess Rosemary Sahjaza High Priestess and Matriarch, High-Elder Magnus Corvo Obsidian Sahjaza Sacred Scribe et Custos Libros, and Prince and Lord Andreas Sahjaza — Temple House Sahjaza, we receive the following words of wisdom;
“Question 1: Is the term ‘vampire’ still wholly valid and applicable to the wider subculture?

Yes, Vampire or Vampyre, even “Vamp,” remains a valid term and is still evocative in its nature. What we are and what we do is somewhat invisible. Without a name, “Art” becomes something else connected with a post-human ideal. We are able to channel and act as an anthem of humankind, deciphering our role as part of nature (ecosystem) and awake from mass culture and automatic behaviors. The old ones could compare this with expressions like “Dead to the World.” Yes, dead to the world of superficiality and appearances but having a more dense and satisfying way of living; true to our personal valor. It’s something more noble, healthy and prosperous. The original meaning of Vampyre comes from the Russian word “Uppyr” that designates pagans at 10th century at the nearness of Novgorod stronghold according to etymology studies from California University in the 90s. The past offers symbols and better perspectives to the present and with our developments in the art of the Vampyre.

Question 2: What is the best methodology for the subculture to move forward in the 21st century?

Well, I think that Vamps and Sympathizers should not use the term subculture. We´re not a “subculture” because our ideas, influences, inspirations, and our acts and creations connect our works directly to spheres of art and culture and is a flowing, living legacy. I understand the academic meanings of the subculture term, but for many it is only an empty academic term with value only at University. It impoverishes and opens our doors to drama, unnecessary egotism and vanity as well as social cliques. For example in Brazil, since 2003, Vampyres and Sympathizers have an official date on the city’s event calendars. Sahjaza Brazil runs a blood drive campaign called “Day of Vampires.” The mayor and city councilors support vamp initiatives as pagan meetings, debates about freedom of speech, thinking, spirituality and fashion. The cosmopolitan vision of vamps or spirituality may walk both sides with traditional faiths (Candomble, Umbanda, Quibanda, Vodu, Catimbo) as well as esoteric faiths like Freemasonry, Rose Cross, Hermetic Colleges, and Wicca Traditions. The best methodology for the Vamps is not to hide or close themselves off in social cliques of any kind. We recognize our art and take our place as responsible citizens where we live.

 

Written and Edited By: Goddess Rosemary Sahjaza High Priestess and Matriarch, High-Elder Magnus Corvo Obsidian Sahjaza Sacred Scribe et Custos Libros, and Prince and Lord Andreas Sahjaza — Temple House Sahjaza founded 1976.”

House Pride of Asura, Gotham Halo

Turning to our next guest, a long time contact for us, Lord Traveler Asura-MacPhee Elder/Co-patriarch House Pride of Asura Co-founder and Ambassador Iron Garden, Initiate Order of the Black Marble of The Gotham Halo, we are furnished the following commentary;

“1. Is the term ‘vampire’ still wholly valid and applicable to the wider subculture?

There are many reasons why the term vampire has been, and still is used within our ever expanding community. It can be said that for some; the Vampire (Vampyre) is an archetype that encompasses the various traits, feeling and overall nature that we have come to know about ourselves. Others have folklore which connects their lineage to what would today be described as a vampire. Over time there have been changes and growth within the subculture and recognition of various types of vampirism. As the times change and evolve, there are some that do not wish to be labeled or categorized with some of the negative views of the subculture; or with the “Hollywood vamp” for that matter. This is a decision that I respect, but changing a term does not necessarily change the connection that is drawn. To discuss its validity would be the same as asking if your given name is valid since you have changed and grown over time. You are still the same person, even if different aspects of you and your personality has changed. My personal opinion is that the terminology is not what should be the concern/ but rather the actions of those within the greater community/ subculture that have led to the negative connotations associated with not only the term, but the overall subculture.

2. What is the best methodology for the subculture to move forward in the 21st century?

As long as there are individuals that want to see the community thrive, the subculture will move forward and continue on. Which direction that will be… remains to be seen. What will always be our greatest attribute and potentially our biggest road block is our diversity. We all come from different walks of life, spiritual paths and life experiences. These differences are what make this subculture beautiful; the ability to share in the variety and learn about the many things that draw us here. We all want “unity”, but if allowed, our diversity can cause further splintering and separations within the subculture. Your ideals may not entirely mesh with mine, thus causing a tug of war; one trying to get the other to agree or “see it their way”. This obviously will not help or lend to the concept of unity. The key, as simple as it may be is RESPECT and UNDERSTANDING. I may not entirely agree with a person, but I respect the fact that their ways differ from mine. I take the time to understand their point of view and path although it may not be in line with mine, and we work to find some common ground. We are all connected in a way; we are drawn to this particular community/ subculture and we have aspirations to learn, share and grow within it. With an open mind and willingness to understand one another’s traditions, ways and paths, this can truly bridge that gap and lead to more meaningful connections and recognition between people, regions etc.”

House of The Dreaming

From the renowned sub-culture leader, Madame X, Matriarch of House of the Dreaming, Prince of the Gateway Halo, Co-Founder of Dark Nations and Co-Founder of Iron Garden we read this assessment;

“Question 1: Is the term ‘vampire’ still wholly valid and applicable to the wider subculture?

The term Vampire has never been adequate to aptly describe nor identify the individual in our vampire community.  It is a very small box and it carries a great deal of fantastic imagery which leads to erroneous misconceptions.  It is however the most relatable common term and, for most intents and purposes its negative stigma keeps undesirable attention at bay.  Many organizations have attempted to create another word without the “connotation” but all have really failed to stick.  My Family, House of the Dreaming was one of the first Houses open to a variety of kin, not just vampires.  To that end, and inspired by Bram Stoker’s reference in Dracula “Children of the Night” we at house of the Dreaming refer to ourselves as Nightkind.  Nightkind is a term that can be applied not only to Vampires but to the greater community that includes therians, otherkin, witches, dark pagans, and all lovers of the night.  There may be some light-workers and angel-kin that find the term Nightkind inappropriate as a personal identification tag, but Nightkind certainly has a broader range and a less of a negative connotation.  While House of the Dreaming cannot say we coined the term, as it has been used by a few authors in the past, we have been using the term upon our inception in the year 2000, we are delighted to see that the community is slowly embracing it.

Question 2: What is the best methodology for the subculture to move forward in the 21st century?

Constructive Communication and Respect Diversity.

While communication has improved over the past few years, I can help to feel that for as many FB groups there are communication is certainly not open, nor constructive.  Many groups block attempts to network and cross-collaborate on Nightkind projects by labelling such attempts as unsolicited advertising or having odd posting time requirements to discuss community events. If event producers cannot pass the word about what they are building than how can we inspire each other?  There are literally hundreds of active FB groups that cater to a variety of aspects of interest to Nightkind.  Perhaps there need to be a cohesive, updated list of such groups. And then again, perhaps there needs to be an effort to unite the smaller barely active groups into larger more productive groups, to enhance cross-communication.  Communication happens in larger groups but unfortunately it’s not always constructive; instead I see people teaching each other apart because the simply have a different perspective or a less than ideal way of expressing themselves. Let’s start using our discussion forums to be constructive and supportive in our communication efforts and curb that horrible desire to destroy what is different.

And that leads me to the second point – The respect of our wide ranging diversity.  As a community we have to come to terms with the fact that we are surrounded by different individuals with different mindsets, different ways of thinking, different ways of experiencing life, and different ways of interpreting their life experience as Nightkind.  We need to accept that we will not always agree, that we will not always share the same views, or proceed in the same way.  We don’t all have to love everyone in the community, but we need to respect the amazing nexus of diversity the Nightkind Community is and has become.  Don’t care for them, that’s fine, don’t walk beside them, but let them fail or rise on their own merit.  Malicious methods of seduction, duplicity to undermine other is simply shameful.  Sometime you need to step back and brace yourself for change – Heck I remember when I was ostracized from a group in the mid 90’s for merely suggesting that some vampires could be both sanguine and energetic … or that Solitaires had value…

Time changes we grow, the community evolves, so let’s begin here with Constructive Communication and by Respecting Diversity.”

Lega Italiana Real Vampires, Italy

Our next international guest comes from Italy, Lady Maria Angela, representing

“Penso che il termine vampiro sia ormai utilizzato troppo dalle aziende cinematografiche e dall ‘editoria. Il termine che in Italia è più usato è un vero vampiro, questo potrebbe, a mio parere, essere un buon termine “mangiatori di prana”. In quanto i Vampiri reali sia psi che sanguinari che sessuali alla fine necessitano tutti di questa energia prana. Cambia il modo in cui si “nutrono” semplicemente

Riguardo alla comunità trovo che veri veri vampiri in Italia non sono tantissimi, molti sono vampirelifestyler o simpatizzanti. Trovo giusto unire le diversità quindi una buona comunità all’interno di esso, a mio parere, deve avere anche licantranoi, terieni, streghe. Solo uniti possiamo far capire a chi non fa parte della comunità che non siamo pericolosi per nessuno. In sintesi “comunità delle minoranze” uniti possiamo avere voce e essere ascoltati, non diviso molto. Così che gare outing non è semplice ed anche per questo motivo credo sia giusto che alcuni della famiglia facciano da portavoce.

Questo è il mio umile pensiero. Sono aperta ad ascoltare e confrontare il pensiero di tutti.

Vi ringrazio per aver chiesto la mia opinione. A presto!”

[Trans.] “I think the term vampire is now used overly by film companies and by publishing. The term which in Italian is most used is in fact real vampire and in this regard could, in my opinion, be a good term, “prana eaters”. As the Real psi vampire is that sexual sanguinarian that eventually all vampires need this prana energy. Change the way you “feed” simply.

With regard to the community instead I find that true real vampire in Italy are not many, many are vampire lifestyler or sympathizers. I believe it right then to join a good community with diversity within it, in my opinion, it must also have werewolves, Therians, witches. Only united can we understand who is not part of the community, and that we are not threatening anyone. In summary a “minority community” united can have a say and be heard, not so divided. I know it is not easy outing races and for this reason I believe it is right that some of the family have a spokesperson.

This is my humble opinion. They are open to listen to, and compare to, the thoughts of all.

Thank you for asking my opinion. See you soon!”

(Editor’s note: Translation by Lady Maria Angela and Tim.)

Haus Drachen, Florida, U.S.A.

Our next guest, hailing from the Southeast United States is Lêow Bundeskanzler Samael S. Adib, Der Haus Drachen, he has this to offer for our deliberations;

“Question 1: Is the term ‘vampire’ still wholly valid and applicable to the wider subculture?

(1)          The term Vampire. You must understand as, I grew up with it coming from a family of very old world values represented the “America’s” Vampire. It later became associated with Hollywood movies; I have always used the term Vampyre. But to your question is a very interesting one.

(2)          I believe that it is, as much as it might irk me, it is a valid term simply because Old world Vampyre’s will not allow for the term they have called themselves by be bastardized. And become a part of pop-culture, or made to be some fluffy term.

(3)          I see a Vampire as someone that is all about flare and style, they are glamorous and fit right into the pop-cultural motifs which has its advantages. A Vampyre does not make them-selves seen or noticed in any way they hide so to speak. They are predators, Apex Hunters; they are the ones that can move the tides of energy. There is a difference between us and the terminology one does it to be noticed they want to be seen and that has an advantage and a disadvantage. I am perfectly fine with them taking the fall. I live in the shadows and I watch from them, I manipulate them for my own ends, and no one else’s.

(4)          In final the term ‘vampire’ is a very valid term it has used for some time now, and will continue to be used no matter what one might wish it is a term used by the masses, and is something they can relate to. So it is of course a valid term in today’s subculture.

Question 2: What is the best methodology for the subculture to move forward in the 21st century?

How about we stop the fighting and petty squabbles I see happening, wow that might really get the proverbially ball rolling, I will not give a story of how long I have been doing this and being a part of this community but I can say. I haven’t earned my titles because I fought over my dick being bigger then the next persons. I simply sat with them and we discussed what’s and why’s of the bickering, and in the end I made a new friend and a new alliance.  Not all the time this worked, and war did come about but I am obliviously the victor, as I am still here. With that said…

(1)          Best methodology for the subculture to move forward in the 21st century:

  1. i) Stop the goddamn fighting over stupid shit no one cares.
  2. ii) Instead of always being at each other’s backs. Just let things go.

iii)           I have done this for too long and the only way it works everyone same page.

  1. iv) No one is always right. We are born to make mistakes. So get over it and move on.
  2. v) Communication … Communication… Communication… Communication… Communication…
  3. vi) I hope you understood that ^ if we can only see our side and not everyone else’s we are destine to fail and fade away. And if we’re going to continue then we need to all see that we are all correct in our own and personal Paradigm. But not in everyone else’s.

vii)          And this is why I am the Lêow Bundeskanzler (Lea-OW – Bun-des-kanz-ler). For all my old ways I know most importantly is progress, and one must move with it or fade away.

viii)         I have taken the time to listen to everyone’s side I don’t judge Thought I must I don’t until I feel I have heard everything that I must in order to make the fairest judgment I have to.

  1. ix) Remembrance we are all FAMILY deep down who gives a shit about what someone else does. We must stick close to one another.
  2. x) FAMILY is what is most important! If you cannot be there for your FAMILY then be gone.
  3. xi) Shed off all the fake BS, do away with everyone that has an Agenda, the only agenda anyone one should have is to teach the (Baby Bats) and (Cubs) that we all matter and in order to stay strong we must maintain the status quo…

xii)          The days of old are but done, they can be learned from but not re-instituted, we will move ahead with the times, and will survive; those that do not shall all but fade away.  Those that do will grow stronger and it might feel like the old days, but it will be in new ways.

I thank you most graciously, for asking of my opinions on these 2 questions.”

Clan Resurrectus

Thus we arrive with our final guest, a good friend of RVL and our Co-host in this project, Patriarch Stefan Resurrectus of Clan Resurrectus, Georgia, U.S.A.

“In reference to the question, “Is vampire the correct terminology for today’s subculture’:  I think the problem with the idea of changing the tag “vampire/vampyre” moving forward is the fact that this is the identifier so many have used for so many years.  I believe that changing the term may cause more problems than anything else.  I doubt seriously that a majority of those that identify would be hesitant, even reticent, to do so.  Do I think that a new term should be used?  I believe we are evolving and that at some point there will be a split, as there is in many species, and a new terminology will definitely follow.  I think that it will have to happen in its natural time, and to force any such change will simply cause more bad than good.

What is the best methodology for the subculture to move forward in the 21st century?  An excellent question.  I think the first part of that should be “what should the subculture leave behind in going into the 21st century?”  It is no secret that I have stood for unity for a very long time, and have reached out and made some very good alliances and friendships in the process.  I am not so short-sided to think that the subculture will ever be unified, however the things that prohibit that are also the things that need to be left behind in moving forward.  Hubris, false sense of superiority, being cloistered and/or xenophobic towards others in the community/subculture.  These are nothing more than stumbling blocks.  I feel that moving forward, the respected leaders should have more of an open-door policy with each other in order to help prevent and solve problems rather than see them as an S.E.P. (somebody else’s problem).  Just because an issue does not directly affect a particular group, it does affect a part of the community of which we are ALL a part of.  I feel the time is coming that those that are not a true part of the community and simply use it as a place to “be seen” or to start issues will need to be dealt with and permanently removed.  If we don’t look at these issues and begin to deal with them, to gel as a whole which is supposed to be greater than the sum of its parts, if we don’t learn from the past, we will degrade even further than we ever have in the past and at an accelerated rate.  It’s time to at least open the doors of communication and start to really get to know each other, not just our reputations, but who we really are and what we stand for.  It’s time to agree to disagree and work together if we are to grow and flourish in this new century.”

“The Vampire”
Philip Burne Jones, 1896.

John Reason’s Real Vampire Life E-Zine and Clan Resurrectus have been greatly honoured by gaining the permissions, and co-operation, necessary to put this piece together. We are deeply appreciative of the time and effort that our guests took to provide their submissions.

Perhaps, dear reader, the words of these honoured people will give rise to further questions and/or discussions within your own circles, groups, houses and organisations… we hope so, and we further hope that with that comes a new, and/or renewed sense of exactly what it means to be part of the modern living vampire culture today. It might even sow the seeds for greater tolerance and co-operation, after all, a single grain of sand, layered and polished becomes the pearl in the shell does it not?

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Lady Maria Angela, of the Lega Italiana Real Vampires (LIRV) Italy.

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Patriarch Stefan Resurrectus of Clan Resurrectus, GA, U.S.A.

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