Information just to hand…

(Img backing: Phozfate & Vampire Art Makeup on Pinterest)

Good morning,

In our last Crossroads Editorial I promised that “further information” would be made available as it came to hand…

In reference to the late Lady Sangi’s site Sanguinarius.org I can report that in response to the statement in that editorial,

“At last visit it seems that the “Registration” for site is still disabled, however, we have contacted the administrators/managers at The VCMB (the Sanguinarius.org message board) to determine whether this will be changing and when. We will make the information available when we receive a reply.”

We received a reply from Lady SphynxcatVP, another leading information and support figure in the modern culture. The reply was as follows;

“Registration on sanguinarius.org will be disabled for a while. Time duration unknown at this time. Plans are to redo the site into something more secure while still being mobile-friendly.

To the best of my knowledge, all parts of the site that Sangi historically had accessible in the past should STILL be accessible without a login (AFAIK, logins were just for making comments on posts), barring the FAQ’s which are currently disabled because the FAQ script hasn’t been supported in years, and thus is no longer getting security patches. The main concern with the unsupported FAQ script is that it could be hacked to deliver malware or a nasty virus (or multiple malware/virii), which would ultimately leave readers with an unpleasant experience.”

We would like to thank Lady Sphynxcat for the information and we will keep an eye out to let our readers know when Sanguinarius.org becomes fully operational once more, a time we, at RVL, look forward to indeed.

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Crossroads 2017 – Honesty, Integrity and the non-Partisan approach

Researched, Written and Presented by

Tim

Just think, not long now and I’ll have to design the ‘Crossroads 2018’ header image…

Good evening,
I trust everyone is well? You know I have a habit of revisiting certain things that I feel are of great importance to, not only our readers but to the cyberworld in general and this evening I wanted to return and take an updated look at “information”, information and its presentation, its uses, its benefits and even some harms.

There is a vast array of information sources available to the explorer of the modern real Vampire culture online, just like in the rest of the ‘world information’ infrastructure. Sometimes it is very difficult to discern whether the source you are looking at is totally accurate, honest and approaching matters with an unbiased sense of integrity.

In many cases it may not be so difficult to tell, for example, if you want to read positive things about the current government of the United States you read certain ‘pro-government’ newspapers, if you want to review negative things then you read other news sources. It is very much the way of things these days… as the old saying goes, “Opinions are like a-holes…” etc. etc.

So, how does the reader tell that what they’re reading is kosher?

img. source: pewinternet.org

When we prepare a publication piece at RVL we begin by researching the subject, the material, available resources and information that may be in the searchable public domain. From there we will ALWAYS attempt to make contact with the people involved in what we are intending to write on, after all, our audience wants to read about those people and their ideas rather than what we interpret their aims, goals and purposes to be. If the piece is an “Opinion Piece”, like this one, we will identify it as such, hence the “Crossroads” banner and headlines. In all cases we go to great lengths to ensure that what we are writing about is based in fact, is supported by material that can be linked to and cross-referenced or checked by the reader. We may not hit the mark 110% but we will always strive to get as close as we can and we will, with all except the “Crossroads” pieces, perhaps, seek for a mandated balance of impartiality but never doubt that sometimes even being neutral can get you in trouble though…!

Over the last couple of months we at RVL have been reviewing a selected sample of ‘Vampire’ resources, reviewing for content, reviewing for informed comment, reviewing the supporting information on which such commentary is based and looking for common denominators in these resources. Naturally, as one would suspect, we have found both ends of the spectrum. In presenting the following conclusions we are NOT denying anyone the right to say, and write, whatever they will… after all the freedom of expression is enshrined in, certainly, the constitution of the United States and, by and large, in the constitutional instruments of the majority of democratic institutions around the world.

Perhaps it is with a sense of the necessity for integrity, honesty and impartiality in reporting ‘news’ and ‘current affairs’ in the world wide real Vampire culture that we tend to measure other sources and determine our own path.

The resources that we have focused on during this period of observation are Lady CG’s ‘Smoke and Mirrors’, Jet Berelson’s ‘VampireFreaks’, Zane Robinson’s ‘Awake and Drink’, the late, great, Sanguinarius E. Sanguinarius’ ‘Sanguinarius.org’ and the relatively newly arrived ‘The Red Cellar’.

In each case, firstly, we must accept the fact that the owners and writers for each resource have the right to have an opinion about whatever they will, they have a right to publicise these opinions within their groups and to disperse these opinions as they see a necessity to do so, everyone has that right and that is something that must remain inviolate. The rub comes where said opinions, from anywhere, can’t be, or are not, supportable.

With this in mind let’s take a more in depth look at each;

img. source: Zane Robinson’s awakeanddrink.org

Beginning with Zane Robinson’s ‘Awake and Drink’, as a part of its offerings the resource presents a series of analyses of different sites, groups and web-resources along with the author’s opinion of each resource. One of the items that stands out is the analysis and presentation relating to Temple-House Sahjaza.

Mr. Robinson opines that;
My own thoughts on this Temple are generally disfavorable. Although their online presence is fairly unexciting, they are an extremely active in-person group. There have been numerous reports of some…unruly members of this group; however how much of that is the individual, versus how much is the Temple is questionable.

It is one thing to say that there have been “numerous reports” of something, quite another to offer substantive proof to support that statement and this is where opinions can fall down.

He goes on to write;

Also of concern is the indecisive attitude in regards to whether or not/how much they want to associate themselves with the Sanguinarium and vampyre subculture. For instance, here are two statements from this page:

“We will only accept those who come with a desire to maximize their potential and who can make a significant contribution to the Family, the Sanguinarium and the Vampyre subculture.”

“The Sahjaza, as a Family, do not hold involvement in the politics of other organizations or games of individuals of the sanguinarium and vampyre subculture.”

While I understand where they are coming from with this –that they don’t want to be taken down with all the other idiots out there by those idiots’ actions– you just can’t have it both ways;…

One of the problems here is that this is “old news”, it does not reflect the modern and most current outlook and practices of the organisation. This particular timeframe was somewhere back in the early to mid- 90’s, around 24 years ago.

The other major difficulty we discovered was that none of the hotlinks to “sources” mentioned in the analysis worked so we were unable to verify any of the statements and substantiations offered. We did make attempt, on two occasions, to contact Mr. Robinson for clarification via email but we received no response.

Upon reading further, particularly with reference to the section entitled, “The ‘Guide’ to Vampyrism” ( accessed via the publicly accessible dropdown menus ) we read that the site owner is adamant on the following point,

“The one thing that I will not tolerate is misinformation. While you may or may not agree with all which is posted within this site, unless you can challenge it with an argument well-supported enough to change my mind or the minds of others viewing, then the information contained herein will not change.”

At the very least it could be concluded that the web resource ‘Awake and Drink’ is now defunct by virtue of its material being long out of date, if not somewhat self-contradictory.

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img. source: Lady CG’s Smoke and Mirrors

In stark contrast to this example we have Lady CG’s ‘Smoke and Mirrors’, established in 2002 this resource has had, and still does, a long and illustrious record of support and service to the modern Vampire culture. Many of you may recall that Lady CG was a guest on A&E’s “Secret Lives of Vampires” documentary, along with Lady Michelle Belanger, in 2005.

Smoke and Mirrors offers, and always has, in depth ‘real-time’ discussion facilities, a live chat venue on-site along with extensive archives of articles, editorials and reports that go back, pretty much, to its inception and provide a huge resource for students of the modern culture.

Of the many resources offered the modern real living Vampire there are a great number of practical guides for actually living the life, not in any theoretical sense but from the solid basis of Lady CG’s personal experience. Items such as the “Vampyres for Beginners” forum, an informative, supportive and non-judgmental place for newcomers to find out much needed things, Lady CG’s own seminal work, “Practical Vampyrism”, a book that modern Vampires can use as a guide to healthy and happy Vamp life.

Make no mistake, there is always room for opinions at S&M as well but the difference between there and many other places is that the atmosphere is most decidedly non-combative and though discussions can get lively they are, by the great majority, mutually respectful and non-judgmental.

img. source: Unesco

From the very beginning of my association with Real Vampire Life E-Zine, Real Vampire News back then, our owner made it very clear that decorum, impartiality and a ‘fair hearing’ for all were the foundations for the E-Zine. Yes, we are allowed to have opinions and, as Staff we are allowed to publish said opinions BUT the condition is that we identify such as personal opinions NOT the general position or opinion of the E-Zine. That’s why I created the “Crossroads” series. As I said, “…everyone has one” and has the right to speak their opinion.

Jet Berelson – founder of VampireFreaks
img. source: Google-Plus

One of the biggest surprises that we got while researching this matter was in the well-established and widely known web resource “VampireFreaks”. Originally developed, we discovered, as a Goth/ Indie/Industrial cultural resource it has, unfortunately, become widely associated with criminal instances perpetrated by individuals who frequented the site with predatory intent. As we also discovered, over something like two months of interactions there, there are NO real Vampires, or, at least, none who wanted to ‘stand and be recognised’.

After entering an inquiry, and touching base every few days or so, these are just a sample of the replies we received;

“They sparkle”

 “Just mosquitoes. ~shrug~”

“Vampires Bite”

 “there was a Vampire Duck called Count Duckula, he was enemies with Danger Mouse”

“Vampires existed in Ancient Egypt. They drunk blood in certain rituals.”

“Do you wear a fedora”

 “The red cross is an insatiable blood sucker.”

“Don’t even get me started on the Red Cross”

“I’ve worn fedora’s for 20 years until about last year when it suddenly became a thing not because I’m anti hipster, just because I wanted it to be 1935 again” 🙁

“You miss college that much?”

“I WISH I was college age in 1935, are you kiddin’!? Fun time to be alive. As long as I still lived in the NJ/NY area and not like Wyoming”

Okay, drifting off topic there at the end…!!! Out of curiosity we attempted to contact Mr. Berelson to determine how the name came about for the site, thus far we have yet to receive a reply.

VampireFreaks.com is an online community for the Gothic–industrial subcultures. It was created by site owner, Mr. Jet Berelson, in 1999, beginning with a limited range of forums dedicated to Gothic–industrial music.

Stepping away from the online site VampireFreaks hosts an online store that sells Goth and alternative clothing, it also hosts a number of events, mainly in the New York City area. Information of these events can be found on the website. Two of the most popular being the ‘Cybertron’, a gothic-industrial club night in NYC, and the ‘Triton Festival’, a music festival that has attracted gothic-industrial bands from around the world.

The site has been, as I say, somewhat unfortunately, linked with a number of violent and sexual controversies however, in a reported response the site owner has said, “the website does not influence its users to commit crimes”, and goes on to note that “The goth scene is a very friendly, nurturing, non-violent community and we are very supportive of our users and do not condone any illegal activities”.

But, as I said, contrary to the name, NO Vampyres to be found, sorry.

img. source: The Red Cellar

One of the latest resources that we have watched develop is that of ‘The Red Cellar’ and the linked resource ‘Ask a Sanguivore’.

It is a growing resource and one that caters specifically to sanguine Vampyres, now there are those that have, and will, opine that such separation is not good for the overall culture… sorry, doesn’t hold water in my opinion (there you go, there’s that phrase…!) It is vitally important to any culture that the rights of its individual sectors be upheld in equality… after all,

“The United States Constitution First Amendment (1791) Free Exercise Clause guarantees a person’s right to hold whatever [religious] beliefs he or she wants, and to freely exercise that belief. The amendment guarantees an individual’s right to express and to be exposed to a wide range of opinions and views. It also guarantees an individual’s right to physically gather or associate with others in groups for economic, political or religious purposes. It was intended to ensure a free exchange of ideas…” [Ref: Monk, Linda. “Amendment I”. Annenberg Classroom. Leonore Annenberg Institute for Civics of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania.]

The Facebook portals offer an up to date reporting of resources for the student of the Sanguine and the website presents articles, editorials and commentaries regarding the current Sanguine life and movement. It is true, to some extent, that the Sanguine Vampire culture has been under assault for many years, the proliferation of ‘alternative’ Vampyre practices and theories that came along over the last ten to twelve years has been nothing short of breath-taking and, while each had its own points of merit in most cases, we have to agree that nothing says “Vampire” like the consumption of blood.

Whether the proofs are coming to support beneficial and nutritional uses for the ingestion of blood or whether we look back at ages old recipes that contain blood in some form in foodstuffs, whether we allude to the old folklores of the Vampire or whether we choose to examine the accounts of the ritual and historical uses and consumption of human blood among ancient, and indigenous, races we must accept that there is a great deal of merit in the Sanguine assertions and that ‘The Red Cellar’ is at the forefront of the studies of such.

img. source: Elcom

One of the greatest difficulties that anyone faces when coming to an online culture is in deciding what is a “good” source of information, and what is a “bad” source. Unfortunately you can get drawn to a “bad” source by the trappings of glamour and glitzy approach… it’s an age old advertising ploy, “catch the eye, catch the attention”, this can, however, often hide inferior product – false advertising? Some would say “clever advertising”. A good thing to bear in mind all the time.

Whenever anyone asks me what I consider to be the best web-resource for Vampires on the net they all expect me to say, naturally, J. Reason’s Real Vampire Life E-Zine, many of them are surprised when I don’t… my answer never varies, and hasn’t for the last decade or so…

Sanguinarius.org

In August of 2015 a great tragedy was visited on the modern living Vampire culture, we lost Lady Sanguinarius E. Sanguinarius (a.k.a. Sangi) Her site, Sanguinarius.org, had become the yardstick by which everyone else measured their site developments and has been heavily supported and frequented since its establishment in 1997.

The site is still being maintained and provides a great range of resources for the modern culture. In an easy to navigate manner, the tab drop-downs at the top of the home page make it simple to find exactly what you’re looking for and the vast amount of information, much of it going back to the nineties, is maintained and fully accessible.

From The Advanced Bonewits’ Cult Danger Evaluation Frame (Version 2.6) to Vampire FAQ’s, from an Online Press Room to Vampire Community Graphics to the famous ‘Dictionary of Vampspeak’ and more there is a wealth of study information and interaction/reading available to anyone looking for relevant and unbiased information.

As it says, on the “About Us” page, in the ‘Statement of Purpose’;
“To establish and maintain a national/worldwide communication, information, and support network for all blood-drinkers, self-identified vampires/vampyres and otherkin/therians;”

At last visit it seems that the “Registration” for site is still disabled, however, we have contacted the administrators/managers at The VCMB (the Sanguinarius.org message board) to determine whether this will be changing and when. We will make the information available when we receive a reply.

In Conclusion:

As you can see, and perhaps it’s no big surprise but the resources available on the internet for real living Vampyres, students of the modern culture or researchers looking for credible sources, vary widely in scope and quality. The first thing one needs to make sure of is, “am I reading facts or opinions?”

If you can identify them as “facts” then they should be supportable, able to be cross-referenced and verifiable. A fact is NOT a fact just because someone says it is.

If you identify it, or rather, should the author identify it as “opinion” then, ideally, it should be informed, based in some sort of original fact or verifiable possibility. After all, opinion without support can very often be mistaken for something else and ignored.

Cases both for and against need to be built, built in calm, rational and sensible ways. They need to be supported and, above all, plausible. If they’re not they simply sound stupid, no?

Don’t sound/look stupid – doesn’t help anyone, least of all you…!

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Crossroads 2017 ~ Titled or Entitled

Presented by

Tim

A matter which has often been long and hotly debated, which has created conflict and confusion out of nothing and has been source of much derision and sarcastic wit is that of titles… specifically the titles that are used within the modern Vampyre culture.

Where do titles come from? How are they given out? Why are they given out? Do they come in cereal packets? Can you buy them at Walmart?

Good questions one and all, let’s see if we can sort out some of this…

 

Titles, to designate people’s positions and responsibilities have, literally, existed since man organised himself into tribes for mutual protection. Someone had to be the boss, someone had to be the senior decision maker, the organiser and so-forth… in order to make sure everyone was on the same page a title seemed to be the easiest way to ensure that rather than making certain everyone knew the boss’s name.

For example, among the earliest known titles we find the Sumerian En and Lugal

EN (Borger 2003 nr. 164 EN; U+12097 , see also ENSI) is the Sumerian cuneiform for “lord” or “priest”. Originally, it seems to have been used to designate a high priest or priestess of a Sumerian city-state’s patron-deity” [1]

Lugal is the Sumerian term for “king, ruler”. Literally, the term means “big man.”[1] In Sumerian, lu is “man” and gal is “great,” or “big.”[2]

Lugaldalu, King of Adab – Sumerian, by Ficatus – Own work, CC BY-SA 3.0 img. source: https://commons.wikimedia.org/

 

As societies grew and expanded the necessity for a greater number of roles and areas of responsibility called for some method of defining who was supposed to be doing what, or who was supposed to be organising what for the populace. Ancient Egyptian society, as another example, included the following titles, Divine Adoratrice, Fan-bearer on the Right Side of the King, God’s Wife ( an Egyptian ceremonial appointed title that was associated with the cult of Amun) Haty-a, Nomarch, Servant in the Place of Truth (an institutional function within the Theban Necropolis) Xry Hbt (a ceremonial position, institutional in nature and associated with ritual centres) and, of course, Pharaoh, the highest, hereditary, national executive office in the land.

With the subsequent growth of political systems under the Ancient Greeks and Ancient Roman systems titles became even more necessary as the range and expansion of social systems grew and grew.

Imagine for a moment, although you may not want to, our modern governments, where would we be if they didn’t have clearly defined structure, arranged by function with the individual offices following a chain of command under people with appropriately assigned titles…

img. source: http://www.avictorian.com/

So, you ask, how does this relate to the modern Vampire culture? We are not a government, we are not a department structured regulatory device and we don’t have a societal structure on a “national” level that demands delineation of duties and responsibilities.

Very good points, what we have is an “association” of Groups, Organisations, Clans, Tribes, Houses and Temples that do not gravitate around a central authority, nor do they necessarily come together in any great measure unless a situation of mutual interest eventuates. Within each of these individual entities there may be found a need for recognition of levels of authority or definition of responsibilities and, as we have already noted, the easiest way to accomplish this is by the use of titles. The thing with these titles, be they hereditary, elected or appointed is that they are peculiar ONLY to that particular organisation or group.
The Order of Maidenfear was created in 1966, making it the oldest recorded Vampire institution and the modern incarnation of that order still exists today in the Ophiucus Living Vampires International entity. Its owner, Lady Emilie C. recalls that,

“Early on (mid-1980’s) we used “titles” just as a means of organization.  We’ve always been uncomfortable with a limitless entity such as vampire culture needlessly being divvied up and categorized.  Now if people want to go in for the names and titles and such because it suits them, that’s their prerogative…”

img. source: Dark Souls 2 Wikia

 

Much argument is made, frequently, about why certain individuals should be referred to by titles – the short answer is that it is necessary to define their position within their own organisation. An example, and one that is commonly argued, is the use of what are seen as royal titles, King and Queen.

Historically speaking King and Queen originated in the Old English to Middle English period (around 900 A.D.)[3] And denoted a hereditary, national executive position of authority. In the case of the modern Vampyre culture the titles are used solely to denote the supreme position not on a national basis but on a regional, or local, basis where a number of “families”, “clans” or “tribal entities” may gather in a “Court”. An individual bearing the title King or Queen will usually have their title appended by the name of the local, or regional, area they are designated as being responsible for leading. The title doesn’t mean anything outside of that particular place but may be used in ceremonial functions in other places outside of that region as a mark of respect and recognition of a leader. It’s somewhat akin to the use of professional titles such as Doctor or Professor, a recognition of position or achievement.

img. source: www.britannica.com

In speaking of titles recently Goddess Rosemary Sahjaza, Matriarch of Temple-House Sahjaza, commented;

“As well they are honors bestowed on our members and others in the community for time served plus works in the community. The higher the level the deeper the service”

In a similar vein, Lady Gia Ahlia Bathory von Ecsed holds the same opinion;
“the titles are earned through contribution and community leadership as well as giving your life to serve the people in it.”

 

There is, of course, a precedent for the use of titles in the modern Vampire culture that goes back to the very foundation of modern culture establishments, such as The Order of Maidenfear,Temple-House Sahjaza and to the very beginnings of the modern movement stemming from the original Long Black Veil Events of New York city. As one of the Co-authors of the original Black Veil texts has noted they did not have the benefit of a lexicon for the culture back then and the only frame of reference they had was the work of Mark Reinhagen, the creator of “Vampire: The Masquerade”, the game released by White Wolf studios in 1991.

From V:tM we can easily follow the establishment of early “titles” in the movement and although such were not really common, they were still used under certain circumstances. Titles such as, Abbott, Archbishop, Baron, Chief, Consort, Paladin, Prince, Recruit, Seneschal and Sheriff. Some of these among the adopted titles to define an entirely new, and wider “social organism” that had never been “organised” in the manner which it was now becoming.

More common, you will find, is the use of the title “Lord”, a term which originated in the Old to Middle English period also and literally meant, “loaf keeper”, or, a provider for the people under his tutelage.[3]

The Devil’s Advocate, 1997, Warner Bros. in assoc. with Regency Enterprises, Kopelson Entertainment,Taurus Film, Monarchy Enterprises B.V. & New Regency Pictures.

 

At this juncture, because there are always two sides to any coin, I am going to play “Devil’s Advocate”, why? Because I can and I’m going to have some very astute help to do it…

There are always the cases of the establishment, or rather self-establishment, of “Titles” by people who have not yet demonstrated, through action or words, that they deserve any more than casual and polite response or consideration. This is the tarnish that colours the perception of titles within the culture and through the subsequent actions of these individuals, especially if they do conduct themselves disgracefully and prove to be problematic, the use of the titles they affect casts a pall over the true intent of such articles. Unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about those people, they have been, and will continue to be, a problem for the modern culture as they parade around “playing the role” with gusto.

As Lady Julia Darkrose, owner of The Darkrose Journal and Rose Wytch Media, recalls her experiences within the earliest organised systems for modern living Vampires;

“A blood drinker/”vampyr” community existed long before Todd Hoyt and The Sanguinarium organized everyone into Houses. We, were the Underground, sometimes, literally. It is due to the onset of public Internet that allowed Todd and Michelle Belanger, to organize and dictate The Black Veil…of bullshit. I was there, with Michelle, before The Sanguinarium organized and dealt out unearned titles. I, too, was given a title of Adept Elder in 2000. That was six years after I came up from down under.”

She further defines the situation in saying;
“Of course, at that point, titles had already been pulled out of thin air and given to the followers (sheep mostly) that they liked the best. The rest is as they always say…history. Those coming into the community since 2000, have every right and reason to give themselves and others titles within their own groups. However, to expect everyone else to value them as such and afford them respect and honor that is highly doubtful they have earned, is ridiculous. Keeping up the charade of, well, all the bullshit that is spewed from groups that are mostly just making up crap as they go along, is, well, bullshit. To become an organized anything, the willy nilly handing out of unearned titles and expecting everyone else to be on the same page, is a detriment. Some titles, I suppose,  are  actually earned, within any given insular group.”

Titles are, and always have been, hereditary, elected or appointed not simply plucked out of the air as required and this is an important point to keep in mind.

As Lady Julia goes on to say;
“Some titles, I suppose,  are  actually earned, within any given insular group. Beyond that, I believe, if I were still a relevant member of the V community, that I would concentrate on simply helping people that are or believe, truly, that they are Vampyre, to live the best quality of life they can. I know, without a doubt, that titles, Houses, and all the hooha, are completely unnecessary in order to accomplish that. Which, by the way, is the reason most Titled Community members give for being in the community…they want to share their “wisdom” with everyone. Again, title are completely unnecessary to achieve the greater good, as a whole, or for individuals. Titles are meaningless when a person’s actions and motives are the opposite of their titles.”

The Nobel Peace Prize Coin
img. source: https://www.nobelprize.org/

Another point to bear in mind is that from time to time an organisation may well choose to recognise an individual for exemplary service to the whole and they may opt to bestow a title, usually reserved for use within said organisation, on someone not in the body of the organisation – we must also recognise that this has precedent also. Think of the Nobel Prize awards. The Nobel Prize is a set of annual international awards bestowed in several categories by Swedish and Norwegian institutions in recognition of academic, cultural or scientific advances. They were founded in the will of the Swedish inventor Alfred Nobel and were established in 1895.

In 2012, The Madame Webb authored a paper entitled “The Importance and Purpose Of Respect & Protocols”[4] for a leading Vampire house. In it she laid out guidelines to the membership of that House which included;
We will respect all of our Elders, of title and or physical age, and we will hold them in high regard. We value all that we can learn from them. Let us take for example the Native American path. Hardly any cultural group is attending to and learning from Elders as they should, or could be. Elders are assets and rewarding resources; much more learned then our beloved “Google.” There is still plenty to be learned about the world and how to live in it. We learn by listening and respecting Elders, not just in our community, but also in the world at large. Elders have a master’s degree from the University of Life. What they allow to be shared with us is a gift.”

Titles, such as “Elder” are not always to denote ranks and responsibilities, they can also be used to denote expertise and depth of experience in important areas and anyone who has put in the effort, invested the time and returns willing to teach should be recognised for such contributions to the modern culture.

In conclusion:

The main concept we must all recognise and accept here is that in each organisation, house, tribe or other such body the members and leader of that entity have the right to adopt any form of official delineation of roles, responsibilities and duties that they may see fit. It is entirely endemic to the individual organisation and does not mean that they hold the same position on other than a local basis and within their own organisations… the use of the title is, however, a point of polite address and interaction. Now, you may call me “Old School” whatever that may mean, because I prefer to address people with a prefix of “Lady” if they are feminine and “Lord” if they are male, that is my way unless a person declines to be addressed so then I shall simply make my address polite and respectful – when dealing with people it gets you much, much further and my honoured parents, my dear departed grandmother and my early English grammar school education brought me up to be polite and respectful, you, dear reader, may have been brought up with a much different perspective and that is perfectly okay – as always but simply because you don’t personally dig the idea of titles and their use doesn’t entitle you to be ignorant of social niceties and be out-and-out rude, does it?

Copyright TB  2017

References:

  1. Saggs, H. W. F. 1988, The Greatness That Was Babylon (revised edition)
  2. Watson E. Mills; Roger Aubrey Bullard (1990). Mercer Dictionary of the Bible. Mercer University Press. p. 975. ISBN 978-0-86554-373-7.
  3. com Unabridged. Based on the Random House Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2017.
  4. “The Importance and Purpose Of Respect & Protocols”, The Madame Webb, ©2012, Retrieved Sept. 2017

Additional references:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_titles

http://whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Vampire:_The_Masquerade_lexicon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize

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